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daywalker:
--- Quote from: EKnight on April 26, 2009, 09:07:46 PM ---That same thought occurred to me too Gena. In addition, how would one, who is in the realm of the imperceptible, behold (see) anything let alone a spirit which can't be seen in the first place? ??? ???
Eileen
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Nobody "literally" goes anywhere when they die. It's called Sheol--the Unseen, but it's not a "literal" place. The statement by David is poetic and symbolic. In symbolism, visions, prophetic dreams, etc., Sheol can be described as an actual place, even though it's not [Just like Jesus is called the "Lamb" of God, thought He is not really a lamb.]
David is simply saying that God is everywhere. No matter where you go, you can't get away from Him. You can't outrun or hide from God, because there is no place in existence that He isn't there.
John 4:24 God is Spirit...
Colossians 1:16 for in Him is all created, that in the heavens and that on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or sovereignties, or authorities, all is created through Him and for Him,
17 and He is before all, and all has its cohesion in Him."
That's all. ;)
- Daywalker. 8)
Marlene:
Posted by: gmik
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I have enjoyed this thread...but I have an itsy bitsy question.....
Ahem...Can God actually be in the unseen w/ us? Why would He be if our spirit goes back to Him?
Or can half a verse be literal and half a verse be spiritual?
I agree that is a beautifully worded passage....I just would like to answer intelligently when my friend will certainly use this scripture "against" the dead being dead!
Gena , We have to remember there is no Hell! Hell should have read grave.
Psalms 49 verse 15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave fo he shall receive me. Selah
1 Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 55 O death, where is they sting; O grave, where is thy victory?
Verse 56 The sting of death is sin and the strength of sin is law.
Verse 58 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ
Jesus had the victory over sin which caused Death. There is no Hell to save anyone from.
In His Love,
Marlene
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: daywalker on April 27, 2009, 12:31:27 PM ---
Nobody "literally" goes anywhere when they die. It's called Sheol--the Unseen, but it's not a "literal" place. The statement by David is poetic and symbolic. In symbolism, visions, prophetic dreams, etc., Sheol can be described as an actual place, even though it's not [Just like Jesus is called the "Lamb" of God, thought He is not really a lamb.]
David is simply saying that God is everywhere. No matter where you go, you can't get away from Him. You can't outrun or hide from God, because there is no place in existence that He isn't there.
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Exactly. "Sheol" is not the new "heaven or hell". It's noplace at all. Dead people are dead and know nothing...not even that they are dead. Resurrection is our hope. Without resurrection, death is the end of us.
meee:
--- Quote from: Marlene on April 26, 2009, 09:28:47 PM ---Now, I could be thinking about this wrong. Since, the body is in the grave and the spirit goes back to God. The spirit would be in safe keeping with God till he ressurect us from the dead. I do not see why the spirit could not be sleeping just because God has taken it back. After, all he will be giving all the ones life that have died when he returns. This is the rest for the saints from trials and tribulations and labours. It is rest to the generation while god continues to deal with the other generations. It also, takes away from some of the wicked in each generation. Doesn't God quicken our sprit to life. We really do need scriptures. With out a ressurection our believe is in vain.
I will try and find some scriptures, but in the mean time maye others can find those for us.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Marlene,
I think this too, when you're dead the whole person is dead, sleeping, so why would not the all, include the spirit that has returned to God!?
Are the rest of you agreeing, or is Marlene's and my thinking off base? Input please.
luv,meee
judith collier:
Now, I am not sure but since I always have to be satisfied somehow because my curiousty can drive me nuts, I just thought the Spirit was God anyway,His Spirit keeps us alive as much as the physical body does. God just leaves the body. Didn't those 2 people(married) in the new Testament (because they kept some of the money from their property) just drop dead. Their physical body was o.k. but God withdrew from them. judy ??
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