> General Discussions
Angels and Saints what is the difference
meee:
--- Quote from: EKnight on April 23, 2009, 04:12:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sandyk on April 23, 2009, 02:02:20 PM ---
Hey everybody,
I'm going back and forth on what this means. ???
I Corinthians 13;1
Though I speak with the
tongues of men and of
angels, and have not charity, I
am become as sounding brass,
or a tinkling cymbal.
--- End quote ---
I thought this was talking more in the lines of what James said:
14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food,
16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and filled," without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that?
17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder!
20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
Hmmmm :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Eileen
--- End quote ---
Eileen,
I think as Paul was speaking about love and spiritual gifts,as other's have mentiioned in this thread.
I think James was more on the line on actual real faith. Our good works can nerver earn salvation, but true faith always results in a changed life and good works. James speaks against those that confuse intellectual assent with true faith.
Even demons know who Jesus is,but they don't obey him. True faith obeys!
Any help?
Hugs and luv,meee
EKnight:
Mee,
I didn't mean that they were talking about the same thing but rather saying having faith or love is useless unless it is exercised. I just thought the "idea" or "premise" was the same. ??? ???
Eileen
meee:
--- Quote from: EKnight on April 24, 2009, 08:21:00 AM ---Mee,
I didn't mean that they were talking about the same thing but rather saying having faith or love is useless unless it is exercised. I just thought the "idea" or "premise" was the same. ??? ???
Eileen
--- End quote ---
Oh sorry Eileen, I get what ya.
Yes, I think Paul and James agree.
luv & hugs,meee
PS: your picture is missing, did you do something?
Dave in Tenn:
Sandy, maybe this will help.
It's part of a sort-of "popular religion" that when people die (good people, at least) they become angels. It's a pretty common belief and is expressed over and over in movies, books, tv shows, etc.
I'm not sure if any 'legitimate' theology teaches this...maybe yes, maybe no. But it is very definately in the culture. I.E. Angels are deceased humans, saints are extra-special 'people' who got promoted, etc. etc.
In truth, Angels are created beings and not humans--they never were, they will never be. They are servants of God and spiritual beings.
Saints ARE human beings and some are alive today, though many sleep.
That's the short version...there's more to know, but maybe this is where you've been hungup.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Sandyk on April 23, 2009, 03:43:08 PM ---Hey everyone
RE:I Corinthians 13;1
Thanks for all the replies, I think I understand better though I know I have a long way to go. I am looking forward to learning the truth.
Re: Angels and Saints what is the difference
As far as the difference between Angels and Saints not there yet. Hope to finish reading the links Marques sent me earlier today.
Again, thanks everyone I really appreciate all your help and insight.
--- End quote ---
- Saints are the followers of God. The "chosen few", the "elect", the "church" or "ecclesia". They're humans.
- Angels [lit. "messengers"] are created Heavenly Beings.
- Angels can never become humans. Humans can never become Angels.
**There are a few instances in the Bible, in which, Angels "appear" in human form, but they are not human, though they do apparently have the ability to "manifest" themselves in human form.
Daywalker. 8)
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version