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musicman:
--- Quote from: Judy on May 03, 2009, 03:13:50 PM ---Terry, drop the judgement on yourself. We all sin 7 or more times a day. We are sinners.
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For me it's like that old Army commercial. You know, the one that says "in the army, we do more before breakfast than most people do all day.
Well:
I sin more before breakfast than most people sin all day. I'm trying to stop folks. I have a problem.
bunnylife:
How to wonderful it is to know that our Daddy God is working in us, through us by His grace and His judgment
teaching, chastening to transform - (literally or figuratively “metamorphose”): - change, transfigure, transform.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed ( metamorphoō) into the same image from glory to glory, even a by the spirit of the Lord.
I was thinking of how a diamond is made. What tremendous pressure has to be applied to transform it from carbon to a rough diamond from that to the precious gem. So I looked up the process.
A diamond is the hardest substance known to man. And diamonds were formed by being "squeezed together".This happened, according to scientists, about 100,000,000 years ago. At that time there existed beneath the ground a mass of hot liquid rock. He earth was in early cooling and in the process the mass of liquid rock was subjected to extreme heat and pressure. One of the results was that certain chemical combination was formed. And one of these was highly crystallized carbon—what we call a "diamond".
Two of the most interesting things about diamonds are their hardness and their brilliance. A-diamond is actually about five times as hard as corundum, the next hardest substance on earth.
And because a diamond is so hard, getting it ready for use in jewelery. is quite a complicated and skillful process. First, a diamond is cleaved, or divided. This requires a great deal of study to make sure it will split along certain natural lines. A narrow notch is then cut with another diamond having a sharp point; an iron or steel edge is laid on this line, and a sharp blow is struck. If all been done correctly, the diamond, (the hardest substance in the world, splits instantly in two in exactly the direction desired!
Diamonds also have "facets", or little-laces, cut into them. This is done on a high-speed iron wheel on the edge of which is diamond dust • mixed in oil. The average brilliant diamond is cut with 58 facets! All this is done to make the diamond have the right shape and brilliance.
this is the very end - enduring (unique sons and daughters of God) How awesome are God's ways. I mean look at the process, (the pressure and heat), of nature making a diamond. That is just making the rough diamond. It still has to go the the jewelry (cutting, sharp tools, polishing) to be completed. That is fantastic. Do we really think that process to change us will be less than that? Are we not more precious than diamonds to our Father.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy [khar-ah'
cheerfulness, that is, calm delight: - gladness, X greatly, (X be exceeding) joy (-ful, -fully, -fulness, -ous).
when ye fall into divers temptations -eirasmos
pi-ras-mos'
a putting to proof (by experiment [of good], experience [of evil], solicitation, discipline or provocation); by implication adversity: - temptation
judith collier:
Patrick, I have read Judgement starts at the House of God, but what is the difference between God's judgement and that done to ourselves by ourselves? I only see devestation when we hold onto our guilt by judging ourselves. Isn't OK to see your fault and move on. I don't know how I got so confused here. Judy
kenny:
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on May 04, 2009, 04:44:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Judy on May 03, 2009, 09:07:46 PM ---Patrick, I have read Judgement starts at the House of God,but what is the difference between God's judgement and that done to ourselves by ourselves? I only see devestation when we hold onto our guilt by judging ourselves. Isn't OK to see your fault and move on. I don't know how I got so confused here. Judy
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Judy,
I think that is why we all have a conscience,we can gauge ourselves through the use of the conscience in order to align ourselves Spiritually with the Fathers use of Judgement in the purification process which has to take place in order to be able to enter the Kingdom of God.
We have to move on[to a higher Spiritual level] from our guilt by association [with sin], in order to understand what it is to be of a righteous character. When we judge ourselves that is the first step in the process of repentance of our daily struggle with sin.
See it,understand it,and move on and away from it... ;)
Peace...Mark
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Judy
Mark really hit it here with our "conscience", it is something we have that no other creation of God' has and as we self examine ourselves and see our on short comings, Jesus said
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
and as we labour in understanding to learn of him, we come alive spiritually to a new level when we leave those burdens or sins, "in that rest". for some it is hard not to pick those labours back up when they leave that "rest".
You know the best part about the good old days are, "is the farther and farther we get away from those days the better off we become".
Don't get me wrong here I have not arrived but I have stepped out of the boat on to the "Rock" and everytime I sink all I have to do is cry out and he drags me back up and carries me.
thanks
kenny
aqrinc:
Kenny,
Well written, that is the beginning of each ones understanding.
george. ;D
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