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Helping others who will not help themselves
meee:
I'll also speak from experience. Our daughter while in high school was going through a time of depression. If it hadn't been for a friend of hers telling us that Felicity was talking about suicide, she might not be here today.
It was the worst time in our lives. I forced her almost physically dragging her to an appointment, where they sent us immediately to St. Joesph's Hospital . They called ahead and made the arrangement. My husband left work,when I called him and told him what was taking place. We drove about 80 miles with my husband having tears rolling down his cheeks. Our daughter not looking at us or speaking to us. When we left her there , she still wouldn't respond to us. She was put on medication for clinical depression and received in house therapy. When she started responding and they thought it was safe, we took her home. She had homeschooling for a bit to make up what she'd missed out on and then returned to school. She was on the school paper and did an article about her experience and in it, thanked us for getting her the help she needed.
Felicity is a very bright woman and today isn't on any medication.
I'd be very careful how I'd approach someone that is depressed. Your words might be the ones to nudge them over the edge.
with love,meee
Roy Martin:
The ones that talk about suicide are saying, hey give me attention. Its the ones that never mention it or try to hide it that commit suicide. By saying Im going to kill myself or just injure myself, is tryiing to get attention to my self pity. Why tell someone you are going to hurt yourself?
I went through the highest level of depression. I got the sympathy thing from everyone for a long time and it wasnt until a good friend started telling me to just get over it Roy. People start disappearing from my life avoiding me because their sick and tired of my pity party. What Im saying is after all the fuel from peoples sympathy was gone then I started to see how wimpy and stupid I had been. My story cant go without saying that God was in the scene the whole time. I didnt tell people I was going to kill myself, but I sure made them think it. I wasnt aware that I was doing this stuff until I came out of it looking back. Depression demands sympathy. I am so glad that I had a friend bold enough to say get over it Roy, who do you think you are by acting this way?
If every one would have said said stuff like that to me at the beginning, then My depression wouldnt have gone as far as it did. Im telling you seriously that they fed me with sympathy when they should have kicked me in the butt.
Please dont anyone be offended by this. Thats the way it was for me.
In Christ and love
Roy
Marlene:
Hello, I don't know why some people will not seek for medical help. But, we cannot force anyone to do a thing. Maybe they have a chemical that is off in there body and should have it checked out. But, then again if they are of age you cannot force them.
I knew what the root of my problems was. I spent way too long on wanting to have a baby and not wanting to live my life. I did not use drugs or things like that, I used food. Latter, even that did not make me happy. But, God helped me to start living my life and taught me I had him to lean on him to overcome this.
I don't judge others who have to use medications. I do know teenage sucide is quite common. I see nothing wrong how you handled your daughters life Mee. Thats, what parents are for to help there children. This seemed to work for her. I know, teenagers do not handle some things as well as adults.
I am just glad they were able to help her.
In His Love,
Marlene
jassy:
Roy, you are on the button. It applies to people with drinking problems as well. How I wish someone had been forthright and brutal when I was a teen. And told me I looked like an idiot when I had had too much. It would have helped stop it far earlier. But no, nobody did, it was all funny and swept under the carpet.
I do it now to youngsters and to people of any age. If they are worried about when they got drunk and ask if they were acting ok I tell them straight. No, you could not walk in a straight line, swore like a sailor, talked like a parrot on heroine ect ect. I have reduced a lot of teens to tears, especially girls. Because I know a female is far less able to handle alcohol than a man. And so much more vulnerable. I dont do it in a judgemental manner, I do it clinically, while letting them know I have been there. Does it help? I hope so. Because I have angered so many, but better that than telling them lies.
meee:
--- Quote from: Marlene on May 19, 2009, 02:43:53 PM ---Hello, I don't know why some people will not seek for medical help. But, we cannot force anyone to do a thing. Maybe they have a chemical that is off in there body and should have it checked out.
I don't judge others who have to use medications. I do know teenage suicide is quite common. I see nothing wrong how you handled your daughters life Mee. That's, what parents are for to help there children. This seemed to work for her. I know, teenagers do not handle some things as well as adults.
In His Love,
Marlene
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That's the whole thing, Many do need the help of medication to get them past the the initial bad feelings that they can't cope with , without the medication. Then they also need to see a Psychiatrist weekly and for Felicity, that was ongoing for a few years.
She was a kid and I could use force to put her in a safe place where she got help.
Yes, one needs medication when diagnosed with clinical depression, it is a chemical in balance and some need it for life. Felicity was able to go off it, but I am concerned that as many women have had depression after having a baby, she might and will have to go on it again. I'm telling her husband and in laws to keep a close eye on her.
Thank you, Marlene.
hugs,meee
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