How do we know if we're converted?

[santikos]

I am not sure if someone posted it yet, but i do remember in one of ray's papers he mentioned that after 3 years with Jesus, peter was not converted. He was converted after spending time seeing, handling, and eating with the Master. I am sure for some it will take alot of time. But if i was perfect in this life i would not need God.

[Gina]

I am not sure if someone posted it yet, but i do remember in one of ray's papers he mentioned that after 3 years with Jesus, peter was not converted. He was converted after spending time seeing, handling, and eating with the Master. I am sure for some it will take alot of time. But if i was perfect in this life i would not need God.

That's very true, Peter wasn't converted until after Jesus rose from the dead and breathed on the disciples.  I remember that Ray said that, too, except, Peter while converted wasn't sin-free (perfected).  No one can be perfected in the flesh, but we can be converted.  So you just brought out a very good point for me to ponder.  Thank you, Santikos!

[Tobias]

It is a gift.  This is what people need to accept. 

Ephesians 2:8,9 are pretty clear.  It's not something we can boast about.  Choosing to do this over that certainly is boast worthy so I don't see as a stipulation for salvation... It is more evidence by way of physical manifestation of our salvation. 

Some could argue that belief is evidence enough of our salvation.  After all, belief is a gift.

I'm new here...  But that's how I see it.

[Gina]

It is a gift.  This is what people need to accept. 

Ephesians 2:8,9 are pretty clear.  It's not something we can boast about.  Choosing to do this over that certainly is boast worthy so I don't see as a stipulation for salvation... It is more evidence by way of physical manifestation of our salvation. 

Some could argue that belief is evidence enough of our salvation.  After all, belief is a gift.

I'm new here...  But that's how I see it.

That's a great way to see it!