There are a few posts and threads presently that are addressed in this article, maybe not directly but the principle is there.
What is the worst sin ever committed? Who committed this sin? What is the ultimate destiny of these worst of the worst sinners? When we forgive someone does it mean that the forgiven should not be chastised or purged? Did mankind have the freedom of will not to commit this sin? Did mankind embrace this sin in his heart and execute it with enthusiasm? Did the Creator put this heinous desire in our collective hearts and minds knowing full well He would be the recipient of a most cruel and unusual death sentence? Who has not rejected the Spiritual King in favor of an earthly king? Who has not ignored Spiritual Treasure in the hope of earthly treasure? Who has not at some point cried "Give us Barabbas!" in this life?
Many times the subject has been brought up on why God would create man capable of doing harm to children or the helpless and how certain sins are so much worse than others, misplacing trust someone puts in you is grievous for sure as is repaying good with evil but is anything worse than desiring the death of the Author of life? Who put that into our hearts? He did, to prove once and for all that He was willing to be the victim, the helpless sacrifice, not helpless by circumstance but by design. He proved that no one went through any pain or suffering that He did not go through as well. He knew that a knowledge of good and evil was necessary for His creation to have full Sonship with the Father, He went through every step of this journey that anyone and everyone must go through. As Christ suffered through this, the Father suffered with Him.
Kat put a great amount of labor into transcribing the messages of the Nashville Conference, Ray makes it abundantly clear on how much love God has for us, it is an incredible thing to meditate on. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.0.html
Now back to the worst sin in history...... NEVER FORGET THE ‘LORD’S PRAYER’I am now going to give you a Scripture to ponder while you read the remaining installments of this paper. A Scripture that most clergymen avoid like the plague. A Scripture that even if they quote it, they will not explain it. A Scripture that debunks the heresy that a sin against an infinite God demands infinite punishment. A Scripture that should shut the mouths of all those who continually condemn me for ever suggesting that God will eventually save all sinners, even the Hitlers and Bundys of the world. A Scripture that proves God loves sinners even while they are yet sinners. A Scripture that proves one doesn’t have to prove himself "worthy" of God’s love before God gives His love. A Scripture that proves God knows in advance that He will save the very worst of sinners and indeed ALL sinners long before they ever even think of repenting.
First we have to find the world’s baddest sinners -- no, even worse than you. Check these out:
"I am innocent of the blood of this JUST PERSON" (Mat. 27:24)
"They ALL [priests & citizens] say unto him" (Ver 22) "let Him be crucified"
"WHY, what evil hath He done?" (Ver. 23) "let Him be crucified"
"Jesus answered ... The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them" (Matt. 11:4-5) "crucify Him"
"Come unto me, all ye [sinners] ... I will give you rest" (Mat. 11:28) "crucify Him"
"I [Jesus] have compassion on the multitude [of sinners]" (Mat. 15:32) "crucify Him"
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost" (Mat. 18:11) "crucify Him"
"And great multitudes followed Him; and He healed them" (Mat 19:2) "crucify Him"
"Suffer little children...to come unto Me" (Mat. 19:14) "crucify Him"
"Who can be saved?...with God all things are possible" (Mat. 19:25-26) "crucify Him"
"I am the Good Shepherd..." (John 10:11) "crucify Him"
"God anointed Jesus...who went about doing good..." (Acts 10:38) "crucify Him"
"And the multitudes ...cried... ‘Hosanna to the SON’" (Mat. 21:9) "crucify Him"
"And they [same multitudes as 21:19] all say ... (27:22) "let Him be crucified"
"...to you all ... the entire people of Israel ... Jesus Christ ... whom" (Acts 4:10) "you crucify"
"Then answered all the people ... His blood be on US... (Mat. 27:25) "crucify Him"
"And they [everyone -- you, me, all of us," (Mat. 27:35) "CRUCIFIED HIM"
Now then, are you ready for the Scripture? Are these cruel murderers of the very Son of God evil enough to be counted the worst of the worst sinners who have ever drawn breath? Even more evil than Ted Bundy?
First, does anyone doubt that God the Father ALWAYS heard Christ’s prayers? "Father, I thank thee that Thou HAST HEARD me. And I knew that thou HEAREST ME ALWAYS..." (John 11:41-42). Okay then, here’s the Scripture:
"And when they were come to the place which is called Calvary, there they [everyone -- you, me, the WHOLE WORLD] CRUCIFIED HIM..."
But before our Saviour died, He prayed this prayer:
"FATHER ... FORGIVE THEM ... for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:33-34).
Meditate on that verse for a few hours -- or years! My prayer is that not one person reading this paper will ever forget this verse and Christ’s prayer for the forgiveness of the worlds worst of the worst sinners, before any of them even thought to repent.
Now if any of you, in your holier-than-thou self-righteousness, feel that you had no part in the death of your own Saviour, Who died for you and your sins, you will still have to contend with the fact that God honored Christ’s prayer by forgiving those who did, literally, crucify Him, before they ever repented or accepted Him as their Lord and Saviour. Do you think that just maybe our Lord knows something about the future judgment of these, as of yet unrepentant murderers, that is not taught in Christendom today?
"FORGIVE THEM, for they know not what they do." Was this just a benevolent gesture on Christ’s part that has no real meaning? Do we believe that Jesus’ God and Father turned His back on this prayer? Will God answer "THE LORD’S PRAYER?" Don’t the theological giants of Christendom have Scriptures written in figurative, metaphorical, and spiritual symbolism, that if ignorantly taught to be literal, will contradict our Lord’s prayer? If it is not possible for God to forgive sinners before they repent, then our Lord’s prayer is doomed. It was then a prayer in vain. Jesus prayed in vain. His Father never heard Him. Doesn’t it just grind on your spirit to even hear such stupid and unscriptural conjectures?
Millions of times a week people around the world repeat what they believe to be "The Lord’s Prayer" (Mat. 6:10-13). Matt. 6 is not the "Lord’s prayer." He didn’t "pray" that prayer. It was a very short outline of what we are to pray for. But this verse in Luke 23:34, really is, "The Lord’s Prayer!" Jesus really DID ... PRAY ... THIS ... PRAYER! Unlike the hypocritical Pharisees, Jesus did not make a habit of praying in public. He commanded us to pray in the private closet of our hearts. Other than blessing the bread when feeding the multitudes, Christ seldom prayed in public. But hanging in total agony on that Passover cross, He prayed in public. He prayed for the whole world to hear. And that is because His prayer was not for Himself, but for the whole world!
I will make a wager right here and now that the figurative symbols and metaphors in Revelation are obviously not to be taken literally, but that our Lord’s Prayer in Luke 23:34 IS to be taken literally. Do I have any takers?
"Forgive THEM..." There is no mistaking who the "them" are in this prayer.
World famous preacher John Hagee teaches the world that the Jews did not crucify Jesus, but rather the Romans did. Is that who the "them" is in our Lord’s Prayer? The ROMANS? Give me a break. Maybe that’s why Christians everywhere believe that had they been in Jerusalem on that fateful Passover nearly two thousands years ago, they would have never consented to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ! Peter too thought that he would never deny his Lord (Mat. 26:34).
Since Christendom refuses to do it, I will now show you the real meaning of The Lord’s Prayer.
You can read the entire article here;
http://bible-truths.com/lake2.htmlHis Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe