Hi Vangie,
I remember Ray did mention a bit at the Mobile Conference last year. The is the excerpt from the transcript.
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Peter thought, well this is the last days. Now he was right, he was inspired to write that because God did start pouring out His Spirit on Pentecost. So that was the last days. How long do the last days last? Until they are over. It’s been a pretty long time. But he didn’t finish the prophecy, he quoted Joel, but he didn’t finish all of Joel. Because it doesn’t all fit then. But the portion that he did quote, it does fit then.
You say, ‘but didn’t it mention heavenly signs.’ He said, you know these people aren’t drunk. These people are like the people that prophesied in Joel, where it says they shall dream dreams and see visions, all of that. And the sun shall not give it’s light and the moon shall turn to blood.
Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.
Did that happen on Pentecost? Yes it did! How so? How did the sun not give it’s light? How did the moon instead of reflecting light, turn to blood?
Light is symbolic of God’s Truth. Jesus Christ is the light. The brightest physical symbol of light, brightness, this is our sun. So light comes from the strongest source. God - Jesus Christ is that light.
John the Baptist said, “that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,” (John 3:19). But He was that light. The Son gives light, that’s direct revelation from God.
Now the moon is the reflected light. That should come through the church and through the ministry. They get it from the Son. The moon (church) reflects it’s light from the Son (Christ), it doesn’t have it’s own light (Truth). If the sun went out, the moon would go out, because the moon has no light, it’s reflected light.
So as the ministry gets light, they give it to the congregation, they feed the sheep.
But what did He say would happen, starting on Pentecost? The sun/Son isn’t going to give it’s light anymore. God is not going to give direct light to the people anymore. The light that should be coming, that was already given to the moon, to be reflected, now it’s not going to give it’s light. It’s going to be turned to blood. What is this talking about?
Their revelation from God was going to cease. Apostasy is going to set in. The church is going to go amuck and instead of teaching the light from God and passing it on, they are going to turn to blood. How so?
Well on that very day they stoned Stephen (Acts 7). Instead of giving light to the world as a secondary light, they turned to blood. They turned murderers.
Tomorrow we are going to go through and see how many men, who wanted to present God’s Word to everyday people like us, they had to pay with their lives. Well who would do such a dastardly thing? The moon! The secondary light of God’s Truth - the church - the Popes - the Bishops. If you even had…. you didn’t have to teach it or even read it, if you were found with a copy of Tyndale’s Bible, you were put to death. I mean it was pretty bad.
Tyndale was burned at the stake. Russ was burned at the stake, lots of people were burned at the stake. They kind of took the Catholics out of England for a while. Then bloody Mary came back and she wanted to bring back the Catholic church. Then she started burning people at the stake. She said, ‘I’m not doing anything to these people, that God isn’t going to do to them for all eternity. I’m not doing anything wrong.’ She didn’t see anything wrong with burning people at the stake. It’s unbelievable.
Calvin didn’t see anything wrong with burning people at the stake either. That man is so adored by so many. I mean considered the greatest theologian. He was, I mean absolutely the scum of the earth.
Martin Luther although he did a lot of good things, you just read what his attitude was towards the peasants. ‘Kill them all and make it dirty, make it fast.’ No mercy.
So it did start then. They went from teaching God’s Truth, they turned their hands to blood. They killed Stephen, a real saintly man, they killed him and gnawed on him with their teeth. They just despised that man. You don’t know what hatred is. Like I’ve said so many times, hell hath no fury like a Christian who’s just been told the Truth.
Now even Christ made some statements that could have sounded like His coming and setting up His kingdom was right around the corner.
Matt. 3:2 and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"
Well it was at hand, for them. How was it at hand for them? Well you can only live so long. Same thing as in Revelation, it says things are going to come about shortly. Shortly? It’s 2000 years later and they haven’t come about yet. That’s not shortly. The word ‘shortly’ has to do with quickness or swiftness. These things must come about quickly. How is it they come about quickly? I mean there is 22 chapters of stuff going on all around the world. How is this all done quickly?
This is the testimony of Jesus Christ, who is, was and will be. I remember when I first saw that, it was about 6-7 years ago. I called up Mike and I said, it says in Revelation that Jesus Christ which is and which was and is to come. I said, that’s in the book of Revelation. He said, ‘yea, I had heard that.’ I said did you know it was in there 10 times. He said, ‘I didn’t know that.’ I said it is, 10 times. I am alpha and omega (Rev. 1:8; 1:11; 21:6; 22:13), The beginning and the end (Rev. 21:6; 22:13), first and the last (Rev. 1:17), who lives and was dead, and I am alive for evermore (Rev. 1:18), who is, was and is to come (Rev. 1:4; 1:8; 4:08), 10 times it’s in there. Don’t you think that is trying to tell us something.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat