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Love of truth?
Beloved:
How do we obtain this love of truth, it is certainly not of self
The parable of the sower gives a clue
It is the good ground (where those are found who understand it”) - that is the heart in which the truth is readily received and set to use.
The four soils represented four types of hearts, notice that Jesus is said to have cried out to those who soil God has prepred
Luk 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit a hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure
Also
(John 7:16 - 19) Jesus answered them and said, ‘My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wants to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keeps the law? Why do you seek to kill Me?’”
It is God that is the driving force in us to want to do His will.
Gary and Firefly to add to what George said
Many of us come from dysfunctional families but as we grow we learn more that we are not to focus on ourselves any more ….we are to die to self… it does not matter that we are not loved
(1Jn 4:18) Love has in it no element of fear; but perfect love drives away fear, because fear involves pain, and if a man gives way to fear, there is something imperfect in his love.
(1Jn 4:19) We love because God first loved us.
Knowing that God really loves us, we therefore should not seek or depend on the love of any man/women rather
Php 2 :3: “Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.
Php 2:4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.”
(Php 2:5) b]Let the same disposition be in you which was in Christ Jesus.
Let us all strive to focus more on on Loving rather than being loved
Beloved
Marlene:
Let us all strive to focus more on on Loving rather than being loved
Beloved
Wow, this week has been a series of trials for me. This is exactly what God has been trying to get me to see this week. It does not matter what someone thinks of me. It matters what he knows. It does not matter if someone loves us, but if we love them. I should know this because my first love broke my heart and even raped me. But, I could not stop loving him. I am sure that it was God who enabled me to love him. The last words this boy told me when I broke up with him was that he hoped he could learn to love like me someday. Well, I found out after his death that he had been all over the United States helping people who had drug addictions and all kinds of things in there life. I know, he was seven day Adventist but had left over doctrine. I did find out he did not believe in hell. Now, I see I would have been without him and ill. God had a better plan for me and him. But, love never fails.
This week I have been hurt by something . I have been trying to get my Husbands families love for years. Well, they can only love who they want. Well, Beloved you are so right. It does not matter if they love me. It matters if I love them. After, all love never fails. As we can see in my above story.
I am blessed with my Husbands love, but even it is human love. The ultimate love , is when you can love those who hate and despice you. This is one of those wake up moments. We have Gods love and that is faithful and true. We , have it all. We have truths most of the world does not even know. They war and hate others not like them. We have the ultimate , and the world does too!
Thanks Beloved for those scriptures and the message from them. All Glory Be to God! Our Great Father of Love
In His Love,
Marlene
cjwood:
--- Quote from: Beloved on June 13, 2009, 09:56:32 PM ---It is God that is the driving force in us to want to do His will.
(1Jn 4:19) We love because God first loved us.
Knowing that God really loves us, we therefore should not seek or depend on the love of any man/women rather
(Php 2:5) Let the same disposition be in you which was in Christ Jesus.
Let us all strive to focus more on on Loving rather than being loved
--- End quote ---
beloved,
the above words from your post reverberated in my ears like a bell in a belltower, ringing out "claudia, these words are for YOU in that this is how you must live your life before your unbelieving spouse."
thank you beloved carol. and thank God for His Spirit causing you to post those words.
claudia
firefly77:
--- Quote ---Knowing that God really loves us, we therefore should not seek or depend on the love of any man/women rather
(Php 2:5) Let the same disposition be in you which was in Christ Jesus.
Let us all strive to focus more on on Loving rather than being loved
--- End quote ---
Claudia,
This is not easy... My flesh wants love to be reciprocated. Only God is able to help us to love unconditionally. My prayer is
Ephesians 3:17so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
God has to do it in me and through me. He is the source that needs to fill me so I can give it out.
Marlene:
I just, wanted to add to this. We, are to become overcomers. This, in no way is to make light of the trials that God has given us from Birth on. Many, of us in here went to God with our childhood trials. Then, we may have forgot him. We were so clouded with these struggles as we got older. Everyone, reacts to things in different ways. Some, harden there heart. Some, give there heart and keep looking for love.
All, of these things become a part of us. Some, come out on top and some live in it all there life.
But, if we can see where all this is taking us. We can be overcomers. God has given us vision of where we were and where we are going. Many, hurt people of the world do not go to God . Many begin to hate him. We have something special here. We, know God Loves All and will Save All. Mostly, we know his Love is so great for each one of us. He led us in here. If, that is not Love then I don't know what Love is.
I think here we need to have compassion. We can share in here and listen to the broken hearted . But, only God is able to help them overcome the memories. This, is a part of our Beast. We don't want to let go of the memory. Kind of like licking our wounds. But, in here I see many people who have overcome there past. I believe, all the different people with all the different trials can overcome them by Gods Love for them. Also, if we are chosen
we will be able to have compassion on the ones we judge. God wants people who can look at the whole picture. People who can handle any given situation. I believe, God made us with the desire to be loved. That, is a good desire if we seek his Love.
In my church of many years. The Pastor once said, " Don't look up to Man cause he will disapoint you every time" That is one of the most true things I ever heard in a church.
Well, I have an 88 year old Mother. She lives with me now. She to this very day cannot get over the memories of my Father cheating and being abusive to
her. For a large part of my child hood I heard nothing but fighting. I hate to fight. I take things to God or ask for advice. She just won't. It is all up to God to deliver us from these hurts.
But, I can say each day being in here we learn every day that God is all we need.
Now, some learn quickly and others it takes more time. It is going to be that way if we are chosen. Some, will learn quick because there hearts are soft. Some, will learn slow because there hearts are harden. But, God is going to use how we overcome to help others overcome. But, we will have to learn compassion. I believe, God has my Mother here with me, so I can learn compassion.
I learnt alot this week from some personal trials. Love, is moving on from the pain. Love is looking at the pain in others life and having compassion on them.
God has my Mom right where he wants her. He has us right where he wants us.
Well, God is teaching me compassion.
My Mother lives in her past. I want to live in my future. My future is where God is. God is Love. He is longsuffering. Well, I am learning to be the same. In a way he has me helping my Mother now. If, I can show her I can move on. I will be a light to her. Maybe,before something happens she will be able to get over the pain. If, not she will.
How, can we help others if we cannot rise above our pain. We can't. When, we take our eyes off God, then we are not able to give love, compassion, or learn mercy or longsuffering.
We share here. We are all in this battle.
In His Love,
Marlene
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