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Andy_MI:
Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


1Jo 3:2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, (G5319)we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

G5319
φανερόω
phaneroō
Thayer Definition:
1) to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown, to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way
1a) make actual and visible, realised
1b) to make known by teaching
1c) to become manifest, be made known

Origen II:
The resurrection is a PHYSICAL THING that happens. I fear of heresy coming into our flock as people continuously try to spiritualize everything. Some people here seem closer and closer to doing that and even destroying the significance of the resurrection.

Andy_MI:

--- Quote from: Origen II ---The resurrection is a PHYSICAL THING that happens. I fear of heresy coming into our flock as people continuously try to spiritualize everything. Some people here seem closer and closer to doing that and even destroying the significance of the resurrection.
--- End quote ---


Amen to that Origen II

johann:
Origen 11 has expressed my sentiments too.  Why is everyone suddenly so besotted with spritualizing everything in the fear of believing just a little something that might just be meant literally?  What?  Is nothing literal in the Scriptures anymore according to some of you??

hillsbororiver:
Great post Andy, a few more verses;

Mat 24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Clouds = elect (enter "clouds" on the E-sword Bible Search, check the verses, tell me what you think)

Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

 Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, bu they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Reign over who and when?

Very interested in comments, we can cover a lot of ground in this thread,

Joe

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