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Eternal Life not promised?
chrissiela:
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Do you believe that ALL will be saved and that ALL people will get eternal life?
Chrsi
Dear Chrsi:
"Being saved," and "eternal life" are two entirely different things. Of course all will be saved as they are dozens of Scriptures that show this. But NO ONE will be given "eternal life," as it is nowhere promised in Scripture. What is promised is "immortality."
God be with you,
Ray
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Maybe I should go back to not reading the emails because I am becomong more and more confused by statements that I am reading there. :oops:
Can someone explain this to me? In light of these:
1Jo 2:25 And this is the PROMISE that he hath PROMISED us, even ETERNAL LIFE.
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [/list:u]
And probably 20 or more other verse about "eternal life".
Is Ray saying that it is not something that is promised to eveyone? Or something that is promised for 'the future' (to all)... in light of the fact that we have it now? Does anyone know?
It is indeed promised to those who believe, though. Isn't it?
1Jo 2:25 And this is the PROMISE that he hath PROMISED us, even ETERNAL LIFE.[/list:u]
Chrissie
mercie:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---
--- Quote ---Hi,
Do you believe that ALL will be saved and that ALL people will get eternal life?
Chrsi
Dear Chrsi:
"Being saved," and "eternal life" are two entirely different things. Of course all will be saved as they are dozens of Scriptures that show this. But NO ONE will be given "eternal life," as it is nowhere promised in Scripture. What is promised is "immortality."
God be with you,
Ray
--- End quote ---
Maybe I should go back to not reading the emails because I am becomong more and more confused by statements that I am reading there. :oops:
Can someone explain this to me? In light of these:
1Jo 2:25 And this is the PROMISE that he hath PROMISED us, even ETERNAL LIFE.
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [/list:u]
And probably 20 or more other verse about "eternal life".
Is Ray saying that it is not something that is promised to eveyone? Or something that is promised for 'the future' (to all)... in light of the fact that we have it now? Does anyone know?
It is indeed promised to those who believe, though. Isn't it?
1Jo 2:25 And this is the PROMISE that he hath PROMISED us, even ETERNAL LIFE.[/list:u]
Chrissie
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Chrissie
This does look like a contradiction to what the scriptures say.
As much as one respects the teachings here at times im at loss why emails are answered like this.
Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1Jo 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death.
n 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Phl 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
The scripture I read and there are more make it Known that Eternal Life Is now.
Im somewhat confused again by this email , lets have patience to see what Ray has to say.
Deedle:
It's Semantics Chrissie.
Ray is probably referring to the use of the word "eternal" instead of "eonian".
Not "eternal" life in the english dictionary sense of the word but "aionios" life in the "to know God and Jesus Christ" reality.
Most confuse "Immortal" life with "aionios / eonian / eternal / everlasting / age abiding / Strong's # 166" etc. life.
I hope that makes sense.
Deed :D
chrissiela:
--- Quote from: Deedle ---It's Semantics Chrissie.
Ray is probably referring to the use of the word "eternal" instead of "eonian".
Not "eternal" life in the english dictionary sense of the word but "aionios" life in the "to know God and Jesus Christ" reality.
Most confuse "Immortal" life with "aionios / eonian / eternal / everlasting / age abiding / Strong's # 166 etc. life.
I hope that makes sense.
Deed :D
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Yes, it does. Thanks. :wink:
Chrissie
bobf:
Ray is saying there is no such thing in scriptures as ETERNAL life, its aionion life. ETERNAL is bad translating.
EDIT: well I see Deedle already pointed this out.
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