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chrissiela:
Not sure it's a good idea to keep going on with this discussion, but I did want to answer your question, Bob, and clear that up.

Blessings,
Chrissie

bobf:

--- Quote from: chrissiela ---Not sure it's a good idea to keep going on with this discussion, but I did want to answer your question, Bob, and clear that up.

Blessings,
Chrissie
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Chrissie, I'm so glad you cleared that up for me.  That is exactly the same way I see it.

Last night, I was reading the same passage from Revelation that you quoted.  What struck me is that the harvest is cast into the winepress of God's wrath.

Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Joel also prophesies about the harvest.  Isn't it strange that the harvest is ripe at the time when their wickedness is great?!

Joe 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.  14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

This harvest & winepress judgment leads to the darkening of the sun & moon.

Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

And these things were fulfilled in those who were added to the church on pentecost.

Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;  17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:  18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:  19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Blessings,
Bob

mercie:

--- Quote ---o my understanding of what you've said is that "them that sleep" are "them walking in darkness" i.e the spiritually dead (pharisees for example). You say these are "harvested first" and "caught up first". First relative to whom? I thought you meant first relative to those who are NOT spiritually dead (i.e. the publicans & sinners).
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speaking of Which:-

 


 Rom 3:13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre;[/u] with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips:  


 Rom 3:14 Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness: [/b]


Rom 3:15 Their feet [are] swift to shed blood:  


 Rom 3:16 Destruction and misery [are] in their ways:  


 Rom 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:  


 Rom 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.  


 Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.  
 
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.  
 
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets

There is NO FAITHFULNESS ,INWARD part?



Psa 5:9 For [there is] no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part [[/u]is] very wickedness; their throat [is] an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue.

Psa 62:4 They only consult to cast [him] down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.


Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:


 Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly;[/b] and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God

chrissiela:
Amen! Bob. Great verses!!

Glad I cleared that up, then, too.  :wink:

Blessings,
Chrissie  :wink:

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