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Patric:
thanx for your input frank and thank you to horseman as well :) ....you really make it sound 'heavenly' indeed LOL...Song of Songs was on your mind I am sure....and from a worldly point of view...and in the flesh I know what you speak of is the truth....but yes you are the first to speak on something the Bible says next to nothing on....I know how to win a woman in the flesh but I was hoping there was more to it then that since I am seeking a spiritual help mate, friend, lover, wife. woman, rib, daughter of God, sister in Christ....I am hoping there is more to it then the carnal head knowledge that I possess now....since Adam said Finally! and At last! he seemed very excited about it....both the woman and I are virgins physically....thanx in an odd way to the church of 'Babylon' for the strict guidelines...and teachings that have sheltered and better said deceived us and many others into thinking we were odd or not spiritually or romantically...let alone physically desired by any person in our lives at that time...41 years of age....not by choice but by fear and religion...I always thought both the man and woman gave 100% to each other....somehow your sarcasm is leaking in some of your statements...but nonetheless there is truth in your words and the scriptures the others used are of course flawless...
thy will be done...
Joel:
Hey Patric
I am praying for you, and hoping that God's will be done in your life. I guess it's easy for me to say, that you could try to live your life day to day in Christ Jesus, not looking so much in the past anymore. I will share with you my experience before I was married. I got serious with God one night in prayer, and told the Lord the type of woman I wanted. And even gave him some clear attributes and physical descriptions as well. And to my amazement I crossed paths with my wife of today, shortly thereafter.
We have been married for 39 years in March, so if you are to marry she isn't a fantasy, but is a reality, some where out there, possibly looking for you as we speak.
God bless You. Joel :)
Patric:
woohoo now that is encouragement brother thank you :)
in the words of Adam when he saw Eve...."Finally!" or "At last!" maybe I am not being specific enough! that is something I heard once....that be specific cuz God has a sense of humor and will give you what you ask for or have left out in the details! but clearly Christ has told us...'which of you if you son asks for an egg, will you then trick him with a snake? or if he asks for bread will deceive him with a scorpion?"
I seek Gods will knowing he knows what I want and need before I ask him....and more so knows what I need more then I do....sometimes I question my list of things I want or would like in a female...and I ask myself...are you such a beast that you need this? and if she has such qualities...would she really want you? LOL the fairy tale "Beauty and the beast" actually convicts my heart on appearance and ideas of what I consider in a partner as the beast had to win the lovely woman with nothing in his appearance desirable...and the woman had to love the beast in order for him to succeed and be changed back....yet if I am not attracted....would I ever fall in love? or have desire...and the Song of Songs physical attraction? I would not settle for anything less....I will be specific in my prayers....and you have opened my eyes... at times I am haunted by my past...or the fact that there is so much of it now! I wonder where the years have gone....41 jeez....I know I am no old foogey but life is but a mist...I would like to enjoy a wife of my youth...and that too is not really something I can decide....I make plans...the Lord does determine the steps....thanx for sharing your brief comments Joel
Patric
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote ---..somehow your sarcasm is leaking in some of your statements
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Sarcasm?
Marital bliss radiation, Patric. ;D
Leaking?
Oh, there’s nothing I can do about that. The leakage is due to Mrs. Horseman’s dual blues turning to scarlet red and shooting forth lightning bolts through me when I become……as she puts it “a stubborn horse’s.....”…. And so I have permanent leakage.
--- Quote --- I always thought both the man and woman gave 100% to each other....
--- End quote ---
Right. And then there is the sliding scale.
Nonetheless, I’m glad Joel has given you wise words that encourage you.
God knows what you need Patric, always. ;)
Gary
Kat:
Hi Patric,
Well I'll comment since you seem to desire any suggestions you can get. I believe that you have to overcome this "thorn in your flesh" before you can even consider getting married. You may physically be a virgin, but you are far from "pure" from what you have said, quote, "there has been much lust in my heart for many different women...yet I denied myself or ran away."
Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'
v. 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
So you need to get your priorities straight, first you have to "pluck out" this grievous sin. It's true that God must remove these lustful desires, but you should not just keep on with it 'waiting' for God to take it away. You say you do not desire to do this anymore, well put those desires into action. If you are waiting until God makes it easy to stop, maybe that's not the way it will happen, you need to just get started.
Now if you are getting along well with this woman you have been dating... enjoying being with each other, communicating, respecting each other, that is what you should be trying to determine about each other initially. You will only know if you two are 'right' for each other, if over time you develop a sincere love for one another and deeply care for one another... you want to take care of her and protect her, you are concerned with what she thinks and feels, you want to make her happy, of course these should be neutral feelings. But sex should not be the main focus, maybe more like a nice fringe benefit. I think that may be a part of the problem, you seem to be putting too much emphasis on this part of a relationship that is built on many other factors. Don't worry so much about all the details, if there is true love you will find a way to work through most problems.
1Pe 4:8 Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.
I hope this is taken on the way that it is given, as just some suggestions that might help.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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