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darren:
Lupac: when I first was brought here by way of the Lord I read every paper Ray wrote here at BT. I read for weeks straight. There was so much new info that totally contradicted my belief system that I was blown away. Then after mos of studying I went into a sensory overload. I started think, how could billions of people be wrong and this one guy Ray is right. How in the world does he know the Truth and all the churches and pastors do not. Arion hit the nail on the head. "If the things that Ray is teaching us is true then the more we look into them (the teachings) will prove that what we are taught is the truth.  If what Ray teaches is in error then the more we look into them and compare them with the scriptures will show they are in error". The truth will show itself. Once it does you will not be able to denied it. You will know in your heart and mind. You will feel the Truth in you being. Maby you need to take a step back, regroup, take a break, give your brain a rest. Hey Lupac, this is just my opinion for what it's worth. we wrestle against spirits and principalities. Satan does not want you to believe in the True Word of God. God is not the author of confusion, it is the devils work. The more you come to know the Truth the more Satan will try to wrestle you away. He is most happy keeping you in the dark. Remember, he is the great deceiver.


Darren

mmijares:

--- Quote from: Lupac ---I'm starting to think the the bible, isn't anymore true than any other religion's book

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Lupac on February 02, 2010, 08:02:25 PM ---Another thing that worries me is that the scriptures themselves aren't true. But more on that later. Thank you.

--- End quote ---

I would like to help you to appreciate the Scripture more.  But first, could you tell us why you (are beginning to) think that the Bible isn't true?

-Mijares

Lupac:
Okay, I'm back from work. I'm definitely going to seek some help. I know what's true, but I can't "feel" what's true, if that makes any sense. Once I have some money, I'll call my old doctor. I might try some medication this time. (I've never taken any "drugs" for any problem. (A plant is not a drug. (Okay, maybe it is.)))

darren, thank you for your concern. I, don't really believe in a literal devil/Satan anymore. I know many of you will disagree with me, that's fine. I'm here to learn, not to teach my position. If Satan is real, then he's powerless to anything except what God allows him to, so it really doesn't matter if he exists or not, in my mind.

mmijares, I had all of this thought out earlier, before I went to work. Now it's all kind of vague. It's a lot of things, all the books not seeming to agree with each other, (2 Kings 10:30 - Hosea 1:4, for example) things Jehovah/Jesus did in the OT that seem, really, um... horrible. (barbaric, maybe?). There are some other things, but maybe it would be better to message me, rather then discuss them here. (Although, the fact that Jesus will save all men puts things into better perspective.)

Also, if anyone could answer my question here, I'd be very grateful:

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11323.0.html

I need to get out of my parent's house. But even then, I'll be close by, and I'll need to explain to them why I won't be attending church anymore, that won't be fun. They're very caught up in Babylon. We go to church every Sunday, my Mom listens to "American Family Radio" all the time, we have R.C. Sproul JR's "Every Thought Captive" magazines in the house. They're also very caught up in the political system. They don't understand why I'm not worried about anything that's going on in D.C. I tried telling them once that God is in control of everything, and we shouldn't be worried about anything Washington does. They told me I was passive, just like our/their preacher. (They butt heads all the time.)

Back to me. God willing, I will make it out of this. Thank you all.

Edit: Just to clarify, I have no regrets about not doing wrong things. I WANT to do the right thing. I want to please God. But I want to KNOW that God, as He's written in the bible, is real.

darren:
Lupac after reading your last post I can see why your confused and troubled ???. As your learning the True Word of God with Rays teachings your also still in the Babylonian system. That's enough to make ones head explode. I'll just add one thing and say no more on this subject. As sure as God created The heavens and earth as He created His only begotten Son Jesus Christ The Saviour of the world and all the angles in the heavens, He surely did create Satan the god of this world. I am not good at quoting scripture but I know there are scriptures saying it is so. Maby somebody here can show us where they're at. 2 cor 4:4 check it out.

Darren

Ninny:
Bryant, I am believing that God is watching over you..I am believing with you and for you, I am going to keep praying for you I can't do anthing,but God..and I know He's real..can. He can prove Himself to you. Not by performing great big miracles, but through the still, small voice, He can calm your fears and quiet your anxieties..when you are really ready He will do it..
Kathy  :)

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