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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: EKnight on February 22, 2010, 06:06:02 PM ---Isn't everyone doing the will of God?
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No, but everyone is doing what God INTENDS:
Excerpt from Lake of Fire part 15-A (http://bible-truths.com/lake15.html):
DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN GOD’S STATED WILL AND HIS PLAN OR INTENTIONS
Few students of the Scriptures have learned the truth regarding God’s stated WILL and His PLAN or INTENTIONS. They are clearly not one and the same. They operate completely differently for different purposes.
First we should understand that God’s will is used both as a noun and a verb. As a noun, God’s will is virtually synonymous with His GOAL. It is usually not too hard to tell in Scripture whether the word "will" is used as a noun or a verb. In the Scripture we just used to show that things only happen "if God will," it is used as a verb. And whenever God uses His will as a verb, then it absolutely will be fulfilled and carried out at the time and place that He wills it.
If, however, God is speaking of His will as a noun, meaning His ultimate goal, then it does not immediately come about in totality at the place and time that He states it. A perfect example of God’s will as a noun and it not coming to total fruition at the place and time stated, is in what is popularly called "The Lord’s Prayer."
"Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven" (Matt. 6:9-10).
I don’t think too many would argue that God’s kingdom and His will has not totally come to this earth as it is in heaven. This is a goal—it will happen, just not at this time. And so man’s will is almost always at variance with God’s stated will as His ultimate goal for the human race. But God’s day-to-day willing of events to carrying out His plan is never ever contradicted or thwarted by puny man. Paul understood this principle perfectly.
WHO HAS RESISTED GOD’S WILL?
So God has mercy upon whom He will have mercy and whom He wills, He hardens. But when I tell people that this is how God operates, they find fault with it. They say that isn’t fair. They say we are mere puppets if this is the way God operates. How can God blame and punish people for doing what God Himself caused them to do in the first place? The Apostle Paul got the same carnal-minded criticisms of God’s plan:
"You will say then unto me, Why does He [God] yet find fault? For who has resisted His will [Greek: boulema—‘resolve, purpose, a deliberate intention’]?" (Rom. 9:19).
This is an amazing Scripture. This Scripture shows the difference in attitude between those who understand God’s plan and will and those who do not.
After explaining to the Romans that God raised Pharaoh up for a specific purpose in God’s plan, Paul foresees the attitudes of his listeners. They will reason that if God is the One behind our actions, and we are totally incapable of doing other than what He determines we will do, then WHY DOES HE FIND FAULT WITH US WHEN WE SIN?
First it is most important that we look at and understand the word translated "will" in Rom. 9:19. It is not the usually Greek word, which is translated "will" hundreds of times in the New Testament. This Greek word boulema is used but twice in the Bible, here in Rom. 9:19 and in Acts 27:43 where it is translated "purpose."
So the question that Paul is setting up is not "…who has resisted His will?" but rather, "who has resisted His purpose [His plan, His intention]?"
To the question, "…who has resisted His will?" the answer is: EVERYONE! But when properly translated, to the question, "who has resisted His purpose?" the answer is: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE!
--- Quote from: EKnight on February 22, 2010, 06:06:02 PM ---Or is it okay to be angry with someone who is not a brother?
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Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice
Col 3:8 ...now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth
The scriptures teach us to repent or turn away from anger...anger at or towards another, whether believer or unbeliever. Christ was not 'angry' at the Scribes and Pharisees but rather their spiritual condition:
Mark 3:5 ...when He [Jesus] had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts...
Also, the bible study on 'Love' is good for scriptural references on the 'love' or attitude we are to have with unbelievers...it is not the same as with believers but it is not a license to treat the unbelievers with contempt. FYI: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3719.0.html
Hope this helps,
Marques
Kat:
Hi Eileen,
Here is an email to go along with what Marques has posted.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2885.0.html --------
People go against God's will ALL DAY LONG. That's what most
peoples' lives consist of--going against God's will. It is God's purpose, plan, and
intentions that absolutely no one has ever or ever will go against. Listen: It is
God's purpose and plan that people GO AGAINST HIS WILL. He purposes for
people to go against His will. It is God's will that we all become PERFECT as He
is perfect, but it is in His sovereign plan that we all live very imperfect lives before
God begins to change us into perfecion.
God be with you,
Ray
octoberose:
Have you ever speculated why, though. Why did God bring about an imperfect human race in order to create His family in the end? It can't all be about appreciating and valuing His Kingdom, can it? Is it silly to ask? I don't think He minds the question if it brings about illumination of His character. I think He minds the question if I'm the creature questioning my Creator as if I have any say in the matter.
aqrinc:
--- Quote from: octoberose on May 25, 2010, 07:48:01 PM ---Have you ever speculated why, though. Why did God bring about an imperfect human race in order to create His family in the end? It can't all be about appreciating and valuing His Kingdom, can it? Is it silly to ask? I don't think He minds the question if it brings about illumination of His character. I think He minds the question if I'm the creature questioning my Creator as if I have any say in the matter.
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Because creating beings Like HIMSELF, is not a stamping out process. Maybe when we read Scripture, we are learning how and why GOD Makes gods; and it is not a simple process, but takes a lifetime.
Gen 3:22-24 (CLV)
22 And saying is Yahweh Elohim, "Behold! The human becomes as one of us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he stretch forth his hand, moreover, and take of the tree of the living, and eat and live for the eon--!(aka forever)
23 And Yahweh Elohim is sending him away from the garden of Eden to serve the ground whence he is taken.
24 And He is driving out the human, and is causing him to tabernacle at the east of the garden of Eden. And He set the cherubim, and a flaming sword turning itself, to keep the way of the tree of the living.
Ecc 1:13 (CLV)
I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens:it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
Psa 82:1-8 (Rotherham)
1 A Melody of Asaph. God, hath taken his place in the august assembly, In the midst of the gods, will he judge.
2 How long will ye judge perversely, And, the countenances of the lawless, uplift? Selah.
3 Vindicate the weak and the fatherless, The oppressed and the poor, see righted;
4 Deliver the weak sad the needy, Out of the hand of the lawless, make rescue.
5 They know not, neither can they perceive, In darkness, they wander, All the foundations of the earth do shake.
6 I, said, Gods, ye are, Yea, sons of the Highest, are ye all;
7 But indeed, like the earth-born, shall ye die! And, like one of the princes, shall ye fall!
8 Arise! O God, judge thou the earth, For, thou, wilt inherit all the nations.
Joh 10:33-36 (MKJV)
33 The Jews answered Him, saying, We do not stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because you, being a man, make yourself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your Law, "I said, You are gods?"
35 If He called those gods with whom the Word of God was, and the Scripture cannot be broken,
36 do you say of Him whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world, You blaspheme, because I said, I am the Son of God?
Gal 5:14 (MKJV)
For all the Law is fulfilled in one word, even in this, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Rom 8:38-39 (MKJV)
38 For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Gal 5:22-23 (MKJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 meekness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Fruit does not start out ready to eat day one, it must be grown tended treated and then harvested, get the picture a bit now ???.
george ;D.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi octoberose
We learn by CONTRAST. We experience evil to be made humble.
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jas 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
Patience is ONE of the fruits of the Spirit of God.
Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Would you think that the measure of love is the barometer of the measure of forgiveness? Our worldly opposites and contrasts are not those of the Kingdom of God that are discerned by the Spirit of God.
Arc
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