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Joe in Arkansas:

--- Quote from: cjwood on January 15, 2011, 03:09:04 AM ---jody/joe in arkansas, i believe you should send an email to ray regarding your strong feeling on this one.  ray has always encouraged anyone to spot what they believe are inconsistencies, or contradictions, etc. that he has written.  he only asks that the person offer at least 2 scriptures to back up what they believe.  this would be a help to you, and also to the forum, if you feel led to share any response from ray with us.

in Christ,
claudia

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Hi Claudia,
I believe I remember you from the 2008 Nashville conference.  It's good to hear from you.  Yes, I emailed Ray this past week about the timing of the 1st resurrection that is contained within the Matthew 24 section of scripture.  He stills maintains that Matthew 24 will only be completely fulfilled for the last generation before Christ's visible return to the world.  He maintains that belief because the resurrection of the Elect in verses 30 & 31 is included within the generation that will not pass away until all these things are fulfilled.  I asked him to look that the resurrection of the Elect being a reoccurring event upon the death of the Elect (is, was and will be, everyman in his own order).  For me, there seems to be quite a bit of supporting scripture for this understanding (including Matt 24).  Up until a month ago, I believed as Ray that the resurrection will be a one time event at the end of this present age.  At this time, I don't see that scripture supports that understanding anymore.  Ray never responded to my last email to him on the subject.  I told him not to if he still thought I was mistaken.  I know Ray has plenty on his plate without having to debate me on this side issue.  Whether the resurrection happens upon the Elect's death or at the end of the present age does not change anything for our spiritual development or our understanding of Christ.  It certainly is good to know God's plan for when we will be raised but not knowing should not have any effect on "if" we will be raised.

If anyone wants to explore my understanding of Matthew 24 and the timing of the resurrection, I would be happy to do so outside the forum via personal emails.  Please private message me.

Sincerely,
Jody Edwards

Joe in Arkansas:

--- Quote from: Arcturus on January 15, 2011, 07:10:05 AM ---Hi Joe in Arkansas,

It is good to meet you!

Rays teachings, I believe,  prepare the way for the unveiling of Christ, not as a physical man of mortal flesh and blood, but  within us, for the Kingdom of God is within and among us.

A pure heart cannot, does not, believe in hell, free will, tithe or minority salvation.

Mat 5:8  Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

The Kingdom doesn’t come with outward signs.
 
Ray also teaches that the burning of the trees has to happen within us, that was symbolized in Revelations as recorded by John who saw Christ within himself, not as an outward  Armageddon physically happening on the Island of Patmos! :D

We know these things to be spiritual.   There is no arguement. Seek and you shall find and seek first the Kingdom of God.  :)

Blessings
Arc


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Dear Arc,
I certainly agree with what you stated above and I know that Ray does too. 

You said:
The Kingdom doesn’t come with outward signs.

Of course, that is my contention on Matthew 24 and why I believe that it is all personal and "within" for each person from the time of Christ.
Sincerely,
Jody

Craig:
This a been a good thread and an example of how we can put forth our opinion but not debate.  I'm locking it now because not much more can be said.  There is nothing wrong with the thread or posts or exchanges.  We have been given the tools to study and learn and even though our thoughts may not agree with others we can rest firm in our belief all is of God and someday the answers will be made known. 

Thank you all for your good will..

Craig

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