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Craig:
Gene, I agree you don't need to waste your time here.  When you joined you told me you did not agree with all that Ray said and I told you that was fine if you discussed what you agreed with.  You joined under those stipulations and on the first post start posting things that are not true and want to teach what you believe is the truth.  You are a the very least dishonest about your reasons to join.  If your ideas are correct you should not have any trouble starting a website or forum and tell what you know.  If it is of God I'm sure it will be blessed.

PS  Your hypothesis is wrong because you are attributing God to be a persons (singular) but God is a surname.  There is Father God, and the Son (Christ) God, and our hope lies in the fact that we will join the family of God.

Craig

Rene:

--- Quote from: Gene Balthrop on February 01, 2011, 08:53:04 AM ---Kat............So Direct Scripture Quotations Here has no place of discussion, but only Articles (AGREED WITH) . Then TRUTH is NOT the GOAL HERE , but controlled responses it seem is all you want. I informed The monitor i did not agree with all RAY smith say before i even tried to Join here.  I think it best If i go, if true dialog is not what you want here but just controlled agreeing responses, that is the sign of a Cult. Agree with us or get out. Frankly i do not agree with some things Ray says , but there are many thing i do agree with but if i can't have honest dialog by expressing my thoughts them i don't need to wast my time here.

peace and love......................................gene

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geokuhns:
Matt. 13:13-17

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

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