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lostANDfound:

--- Quote from: Moises on February 05, 2011, 04:00:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: lostANDfound on February 03, 2011, 05:30:43 PM ---craig,

 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

2 Corinthians 6:14-18



Ephesians 5:6-11

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These is very truth (and very hard to do for many with christians family members) 



God know how much willing I am to forsake things.



I think you are very brave


Moises

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moises, i totally blocked this out of my brain, didn't even register until i was eating dinner at my parents with my kids a few days later.  since it hit me i have been a mess.  the issues surrounding removing myself from a church bible study and the delicacy of respecting my husband in the process... this is nothing when stood next to the thought of extracting myself from my parents dinner table.  let me be clear.  i love my parents!  they are gentle loving people.  and carnal, and deceived.  but my parents are not just common sinners, they are pharisees.  dad is a lay pastor, mom has her masters of divinity.  they teach, live, and love babylon.  if only they were just murderers, liars, or thieves.  but no, they say they are believers and with a bible in hand they teach the flocks that the author of the scriptures will burn most of humanity, and all the other idols we know about here on the forum.  i know that Jesus sat down and ate with the tax collectors.  did he sit down and eat with the pharisees?  
i'm not feeling so brave right now moises.  but then again i am willing (fool that i am).  once the dust settles from this post and it's responses, if God answers my prayers for clarity and direction, and if i'm convinced that my Father wants me to sever ties with my parents...well i'll need a lot of prayerful support.  
i have been deeply shaken by the thought of possibly (probably?) having to take these steps. please be gentle with me!  but truth above gentleness of course.  

lostANDfound:
from a wise one in the background on this forum:

Luk 7:36  And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
Luk 7:37  And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment
Luk 7:38  And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.

Kat:

Hi lostandfound,

Luke 14:26  "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

What this means to me is that we "hate" anybody in this world compared to the love we have for God. We can not let anything or anybody interfer with our spiritual growth, not even our families. Serving and obeying God comes first above EVERYTHING else. It is up to you by the guidance of the Holy Spirit of course, to determine if being around anybody is so negative as to be too determental to your spiritual well being. I could see if someone did not accept what you believe and would try very hard to dissuade you when you were around them, that might not be so good for you.

Does 1 Cor. 5 means to break off from ever going around unbelieving family members? Well it certainly means we need to consider very carefully our own spiritual well being with whom ever you socialize with.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

CEO:
HI

Bibletruths have been revealed to me since 2005.  I still attend baptist church with my wife.  Though I am physically there, spiritually  I am not there. God has called those who are attending.  He has the perfect plan for creating them into Him and this is a necessary step.

I did write a resignation letter explaining my understanding of scripture is very different than theirs.  I also was chairman of deacons of a 1500 member church.  To me attendance and membership are differentiating.  Didn't Ray attend a mega church in Atlanta?

My heart is in the mega church of all churches, Jesus Christ's church.

Askseeknock

Charles O

karenmarie:
I attend and visit various churches in my community, and glean teaching and fellowship from all of them. I don't speak out my beliefs to most, but occasionally, to some, those who are also wondering and searching for deeper truth. I can find aggravating things, doctrines, and people in these churches, but I also find kindred spirits and prayer support and messages from God in the same churches.

I have to laugh, though - Orthodox, Catholic, Episcopalian, break-away Episcopalian, Baptist, and Pentescostal - yep - those are the folks I find fellowship with! Back in the day, when I was a member of a strict bible church, I believed the teachings I received against those above groups. Now I just look for people who seek God. They may still hang onto a doctrine or two or three that I no longer accept, but if they are searching for God's light and love and Him, then my spirit recognizes their spirit. We walk together, from time to time, on the path, and talk of Christ and God and share hopes and faith and struggles.

Still, it is a blessing to come here and read the posts on the forum. They strengthen my mind and feed my heart.

Karen

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