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acomplishedartis:

--- Quote from: lostANDfound on February 03, 2011, 05:30:43 PM ---craig,

 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

2 Corinthians 6:14-18

Ephesians 5:6-11

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These is very truth (and very hard to do for many with christians family members) 



God know how much willing I am to forsake things.



I think you are very brave


Moises

octoberose:
Dear lostAndfound,
 I've been trying to decide if I'm going to add to this post or not, since I'm in such a different place as the brothers and sisters here. I'm not going to announce to my husband after thirty years that I cannot attend services with him, especially when he's the one teaching one of the bible classes on Sunday morning. But it's been very encouraging to me that a lot of our conversations have gotten into his teachings; one Sunday we spoke about Jesus being created by God and no one even challenged it. Last week he brought up death, and how the Bible refers to death as sleep and the dead know nothing. They listened! Now, I don't think this can last forever. The next class in the spring is on the Holy Spirit. I'm not even sure how my husband is going to approach it but he knows the origin of the doctrine of the Trinity and he'll probably tell them the history of it and the why's of it and maybe we can actually get farther into the Truth. One of my greatest prayers is that my  husband will completely come to the understandings we have here and we can have a home church, but God will either do that work or He won't. In the mean time, my role is that of a help meet.  Esther was queen with Xerxes but living in the palace didn't make her less of a Jew. God used her and that's what I'm praying for. Ray taught that the blind can't see and that surely applies to Christendom but I don't think that I'm superior to them. I feel that Someone turned the light on and now I can see things I never did before. I know that many of you, probably all of you, have spoken to friends and family to no avail, but I'm not done trying. 
 My children are grown, but if they weren't would my refusal to go to 'church' bring glory to God in our family, or would children see 'religion' as something divisive that tore their parents apart? That's something all of you have to answer and God will probably bring us to different conclusions to do His will.
  I love my husband but I don't worship him. The God that I do worship gave me a husband and children and the ability to speak the Truth with Love and though I fail sometimes I repent and try again.
I pray we all find the good we can do every day and then do it. I really value all of you and the wisdom and the comfort you bring to this place every day.
 
 

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi lostANDfound

One of the things I found useful in telling people that there is no Hell, is to immediately assure them that the Correction that God brings to the deeds of evil people, will feel like Hell to them, yet won’t take God forever to put right.

It is a day and night difference to believe IN God or,  to BELIEVE God.

On the way to believing God,  The Light of God, lights the way home to warm, peaceful calm of knowing Him, leaving invisibly behind, those who only know of Him.

Blessings
Arc

Kat:

Hi octoberose,

What you express just shows that each of us have some what of a different journey. I can see how in your situation that remaining with your huband, while he is sheds a little light in a dark place, is a good thing. His teaching that class is a catalyse for him to study and with his "help meet" to gain knowledge of the truth. Right now the church situation is working for you and your huband and it's possible others may have their eyes opened as well.

So we each have our own particular set of circumstances God has given us to work with and He will guide us through.

Mat 10:16  "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

octoberose:
Thank you Kat. It is an ongoing journey and it really shows in my house. You know a little of our struggles this year and how all we can do is wait on God. It's actually comforting to me that although some in my house are caught in sin that God has used that to bring us all closer together and we're learning how to walk in love. I keep thinking, day in and out, what is the plank in my own eye? I think that also applies to the beginning of this thread as we are salt and light to others we have to keep looking at how we're doing in the Lord. It's easy for me to get puffed up with how right I am, and that's when we fall.
 Arc,  I really appreciate what you tell people about hell. That is such a wise way to put it. I'm afraid in the beginning they thought I was saying people were going to get off scott free and I didn't mean to imply that. I'm going to remember your words.

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