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mharrell08:
Excerpt from Mobile Conference 2009 (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11521.msg99633.html#msg99633):
What Paul has to say about QUALIFYING:
Paul said I bring anything that is sinful or wrong under “subjection” in my body, unless I speak to you on how to do all this stuff and “I myself should be a castaway.”
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
So yes, he was aware of that and he kept that prod on himself, but was he negative about it? Did he said, ‘Boy, I hope I make it. But He put me through some stuff. I don’t know if I’ll make it to the end. I don’t know if I can endure all this stuff God put me through. I got this demon smacking me up side the head (spiritually speaking), every day of my life. I’m in hunger and thirst, nakedness and problems, troubles, threats of robbers and killers and shipwrecked, in the swamp… I don’t know if I can make it.’ No!
He says, I KNOW there’s a wreath of righteousness waiting for me (2 Timothy 4:08). “I KNOW.” So what do we learn from that? We can KNOW!
Paul talks about qualifying. It doesn’t use ‘qualifying’ but one time in the King James, it uses the word ‘approved.’
2 Tim. 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (KJV)
The Concordant uses the word “qualified,” that’s a little closer to the Greek.
2 Tim. 2:15 Endeavor to present yourself to God qualified, an unashamed worker, correctly cutting the word of truth. (CLV)
1 Corinthians 11:19 …that those also who are qualified may become apparent among you.
James 1:12 happy is the man that is enduring trial: for becoming qualified, he will be obtaining the wreath of life, which the Lord promises those loving Him.
Mark,
We can know, we don't have to live a life of uncertainty. But we do still have to live our lives, and as you've stated, endure to the end. But we can know.
But few have the spiritual maturity to not let pride seep in by acknowledging this truth, that's where the problem lies.
judith collier:
You get used to it! After so long you wouldn't trade it for any highs. You can't trust feelings anyway.
Another thing if you are so discouraged God usually sends in the troops to help you get over yourself/ We are a forgiven people but sometimes it takes others to help us see that.
When you are in the dark remember what you saw in the light! A thousand times I have done this. Just make up your mind to keep moving forward, God will be there just like in the past. Our will is being made stronger in accordance with God's will. Feelings eventually fall by the wayside more and more.
If you get a personal touch from God, all the more reason to remember later.
love, judy
lilitalienboi16:
You know, I used to be super concerned about overcoming. I wanted to sit on a throne, I wanted all that... Then it started to feel like vanity. Like I wanted it because I wanted a prize and it almost felt like it was the movitation behind me doing anything right or me loving our Father. Than I just came to realize, I don't care anymore if I finish first, last or somewhere in the middle. I don't care about the "prize." I don't care about the throne and the fancy title... I just realized I wanted to follow my Father because I love Him and if I'm not to overcome in this lifetime, it don't bother me one bit. I'm going to be happy and strive to be like my Father because I love Him, and He's the prize I want. I don't know.. might sound wierd. I Just kind of gave up I guess on going hardcore for that prize or overcoming or being an elect etc...I even hated that, I had to be tempted with a prize to be motivated to follow our Lord. That bothered me so much so and it felt so invigorating when I was able to see past that and forget it and just follow Him out of a loving desire and everything that He is.
Maybe I'm wierd, but screw the prize! Ill love Him and follow Him with or without a prize and do everything in this deathly, carnal, flawed beyond belief, body lacking any ability of my own to do whats good and keep pushing forward. I don't know.. I Just see God, love, as the ultimate prize, none of this throne stuff, elect etc.. Meh. Don't want it, The Lord thats what I want. Peace, thats what I want, to know love (God is love) that nothing on this earth could compare to, to know FAMILY, seeing as how i've never really known family as mine is broken beyond fixing.
Wierd? Probably, but so be it! I don't mind that :) I've always been a little wierd xD
1 John 4:19 "We love Him because He first loved us." Aint that the truth?
Kat:
No Alex, not weird at all, I think you get it. We are to seek God and His righteouness first and foremost.
Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness...
Mark 12:30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. This is the first commandment.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on April 01, 2011, 06:31:14 PM ---Like I wanted it because I wanted a prize and it almost felt like it was the movitation behind me doing anything right or me loving our Father. Than I just came to realize, I don't care anymore if I finish first, last or somewhere in the middle. I don't care about the "prize."
--- End quote ---
Jesus and the Father dwelling in us is the prize, they are one in the same and can't be separated. Things such as prize, crown of righteousness, thrones, etc. are simply metaphors of Christ in us, our hope & glory [Col 1:27].
But you've got the right attitude Alex, no worries. :)
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