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Kat:
Hi John,
John 5:37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me...
So what Jesus said is true; a being, the Father sent Him. You don't send yourself, the Father (one being) sent (another being) Jesus Christ. Also Jesus prayed to the Father, not Himself. Jesus spoke of His Father often, He was not speaking about Himself.
John 12:49 For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
But no doubt most get confused when Christ said "believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me" (John 14:11), this does not mean they are one being. This is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that made them ONE, just like we too have the Holy Spirit indwelling that gives us oneness with Christ and the Father.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
This is a complicated topic, just keep reading and studying and slowly but surely things will start falling into place like the pieces of a puzzle.
--- Quote ---Something that really confuses me is if no man has seen or heard the Father, then who was speaking at the baptism of Jesus?
--- End quote ---
John 5:37 ...You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, "You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased."
Here is an email on this.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5374.0.html ----
Notice that it was "a" voice, not the Father's voice. God has many millions of messengers (erroneously called "angels" in Scripture). A messenger delivers messages. These particular message was that "This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased, hear ye Him." The messenger ("a voice") delivered the message. Simple, huh?
God be with you,
Ray
JohnMichael:
I must say, Kat, you have a gift. That does make a WHOLE lot more sense. Light bulb yet again :)
EDIT:
I have just one more question then, and I think I have the answer, but I want to be sure. When we pray, should it be to Jesus or to the Father or both? It would seem that it should be to Jesus because "No man comes to the Father but [through] Me (Christ)." Wouldn't that also include prayer?
Duane:
John Michael...In the model prayer that Jesus gave the disciples when they asked "teach me to pray" Jesus said "Our FATHER who art in heaven..." so I would assume that we are to pray to the Father- though Jesus in the intercessor (mediator) between God and man. The
Ho;y Spirit , then puts our thoughts and words, to the father in a language better (more perfectly) than ours--"with groanings we can not utter".
gmik:
Is it only a prayer when we first say...Dear Father/Jesus, please.....???
I assume all my thoughts are prayers and kinda just talk like to a friend.
Duane:
gmik...if we are instructed to "pray without ceasing", I think you are more right than wrong
in assuming a "running dialogue" with God throughout the day. What a wonderful thought!
Picturing a running dialogue with God all day should sure help in the idea of purifying our thoughts, however, I guess that's the case ANYWAY with the Holy Spirit in us!
Enjoy your comments.
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