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The Godhead, "oneness" teachings.....please share your excellent views on this
sunset_drama_king:
Hello everyone, long time since I posted! I gotta get over here and post more often!! (although I do lurk quite a bit)
Anyways, after finding out that I was learning such amazing truths via bible-truths and *not-allowed*.com, my mom mailed me a little 5 page article on the Godhead.....for her the teaching that there is ONE GOD and there is nothing but the Father (Christ is basically the physical manifestation of the Father Himself) is the absolute most important thing to understand in doctrine.....well anyways, the article she sent is readable online here:
http://www.apostolic-faith.org/isjesus.html
I grew up under the same teachings since I was very little, and it was always a very fiercely held teaching, above all things this will be the most difficult thing to have my mom reconsider that her apostolic denomination teaches...the article is well written I guess for it's viewpoint, but I'm just wondering if anyone can help me go through it and basically refute it's points? I can refute much of it given what little knowledge I have so far (example: the comments about BEING HOLY IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN BEFORE HUMANITY FELL...)
But I want to mail it back to her with my responses to it, I think this would help my mom see how absolutely serious I am about learning the truth, and exposing false teachings that come to me, and I'm fully ready to have my response rejected by her (of course I'm hoping it won't be, but it's OK if it is), I just want above all to expose her to the truth by exposing the errors in this article...
I appreciate anyone who helps me with this and anyone who at least reads it and gives me their viewpoint on it. Ray's excellent paper on the trinity doesn't go much into "oneness" doctrine (or at least the specific argument in this article I'm refuting) or I would just refer her to that alone....which I will do AS WELL :)
Thanks and God bless!
- Brett S.
lilitalienboi16:
I'm no teacher or anything, still learning lots and lots, but...
The guy asked anyone, or rather dared anyone to share scripture that showed that CHRIST is the SON NOW in this time and age, i'm taking that to mean that he believes there is no scripture showing Christ after He was ressurected and seated at the right hand is still the Son but rather now the father or some sort. I could be wrong i skimmed it.
Here some scripture written by the disciples themselves (Which he claims don't exist) showing that Jesus Christ is still the SON in SUBJECT to the Father.
Eph. 1:3: "Blessed be the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"
Col. 1:3: "We are thanking the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"
I Pet. 1:3: "Blessed be the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"
If these scriptures which were written sometime after Christ was ressurected and re-seated into Glory that He and the Father are two different beings, then i don't know what does. Christ is clearly shown to be the SON here long after His ressurection as the disciple makes it Clear He is thanking/blessing the God and FATHER of Jesus Christ (Which would make it clear Christ is the Son.)
Now i could be wrong but thtas how im seeing these scriptures... Christ appears to be the Son of THE ONLY God and Father of our LORD and savior.
God bless,
Alex
sunset_drama_king:
Alex,
thank you for taking the time to reply and read that small article, that is very helpful information!
Anyone else want to contribute with more scriptural refutations to that article? I really appreciate anyone's perspective on this and I would value a lot of your opinions on this...I see the quality and truth that is behind many of your posts, I'm excited to get more replies.
Thanks again!
- Brett S.
Alan:
Brett,
Most of that article is ridiculous!
It's like trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat!
I know you want to show your mother the truth, but I think you will open up a bigger can of worms.
Just study Ray and Mike's sites and let the Lord teach you. One day you can give an answer to your mother without
having to even refer to that heresy of a paper.
Be patient!
In Christ,
Alan
sunset_drama_king:
--- Quote from: Alan on July 09, 2006, 06:32:09 AM ---Brett,
Most of that article is ridiculous!
It's like trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat!
I know you want to show your mother the truth, but I think you will open up a bigger can of worms.
Just study Ray and Mike's sites and let the Lord teach you. One day you can give an answer to your mother without
having to even refer to that heresy of a paper.
Be patient!
In Christ,
Alan
--- End quote ---
I appreciate your enthusiasm about continuing my studies...and I certainly will, but do you have anything specific you can point out concerning that paper's argument and how it smacked you as heretical? Anything you want to perhaps respond to that the paper claims?
Thanks Alan.
- Brett S.
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