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The Godhead, "oneness" teachings.....please share your excellent views on this

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Sorin:
Jesus is The Father....yeah... and Jesus was praying to himself the whole time too... right?  In other words He was saying , not my will, but mine be done. Oh and when He was dead, who was running and sustaining the universe?


I would ask these sort of questions and watch that she won't be able to answer, and will most likely get really angry, like my folks. lol

Hope this helps,
Sorin

nightmare sasuke:

--- Quote from: prarrydog on July 09, 2006, 12:19:08 PM ---
  Hi Brett,

   I read that paper and it is alot of unscriptural nonsense.  The author appears to be making a claim that Jesus is The Father.  Alex already posted excellent scripture showing that Jesus is not The Father right now so the only questions are...Was He The Father? and will He be The Father?  Here are a couple of scriptures for you to ponder:

  Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ...
  Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness...
  Rev 3:14  These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

  Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God (The Father).  So will He be God The Father in the future?  Let's see:

1Co 15:24  Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
1Co 15:25  For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26  The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27  For he "has put everything under his feet."[3] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Co 15:28  When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.


Good luck

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If Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, in the sense you interpret the verse, how was he the "first and the last" and the "alpha and the omega?"

Did you ever consider that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God because the creation of God was done THROUGH Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is the beginning of the creation of God because it was done through him. That's my opinion, anyway.

nightmare sasuke:

--- Quote from: bobbys43 on July 09, 2006, 01:11:19 PM --- God speaks of creation and Christ was created because God has no begging and no end but scripture tells us that

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If Jesus was with God in the beginning, then how did he have a beginning?


--- Quote ---ALL things were made by him;(Christ) and without him was not anything made that was made.
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Just to let you know, "by" should be translated "through."

dia - "A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through" (Strong G1223).

Chris R:
Hello all,

Ray has covered this topic on the web site , lets now move on..

Thanks

Chris R

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