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Duane:
Hey, you geniuses, what about my post about every minute being accounted for in the Bible for the missing day of leap year?
I think that is quite amazing. If my father were still alive I would ask him to recall each verse that made up the missing 24 hours. Does God do things like that, and the "Big Dipper" that every nationality ever so primitive would recognize, just as a visual awareness that rational thought was/is behind creation?
I just watched the Discovery Channel re: earths creation and it's relationshio to the sun and how Jupiter
is the planet with the gravitational pull to keep foreign bodies from slamming into the earth, and how everything in the universe was so PERFECTLY arranged so that the earth could sustain life--and NOT ONE MENTION OF AN INTELLIGENT CREATOR! "eyes are blinded to the truth".!!
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Duane on May 05, 2011, 05:10:03 PM ---Hey, you geniuses, what about my post about every minute being accounted for in the Bible for the missing day of leap year?
I think that is quite amazing. If my father were still alive I would ask him to recall each verse that made up the missing 24 hours. Does God do things like that, and the "Big Dipper" that every nationality ever so primitive would recognize, just as a visual awareness that rational thought was/is behind creation?
I just watched the Discovery Channel re: earths creation and it's relationshio to the sun and how Jupiter
is the planet with the gravitational pull to keep foreign bodies from slamming into the earth, and how everything in the universe was so PERFECTLY arranged so that the earth could sustain life--and NOT ONE MENTION OF AN INTELLIGENT CREATOR! "eyes are blinded to the truth".!!
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That's where we come in. :D ;) :) ;D
Samson:
--- Quote from: Grace on May 05, 2011, 09:08:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Craig on May 05, 2011, 05:34:54 AM ---
--- Quote ---I can't handle this type of stuff
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Grace what is there to handle?
These discussions are just the static on a bad radio station. It is all vanity and flapping in the wind. What if the world is flat or square or the moon is made of cheese? What if the sun revolves around the earth or the moon? or it just sits still? What if there was men before Adam? What if...What if??? What does it matter? Does this knowledge do anything to help us die to self? does it do anything to make us more Christlike? Does it make us more humble? loving? patient? peaceful? No, I don't think so, but it does expose the idols of our hearts or just puffs us up. We want to be worthy of being messengers of our God, but we are shown that we are not worthy of being messengers to anything. We look for the great spiritual meaning of a word or sentence in scripture and if we think we have found it we become special...Vanity, meaningless noise and babble.
Grace, using my radio analogy, don't shut off the whole radio, just change the channel whenever the static gets bad.
Craig
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Hi Craig,
I feel as if I owe an explanation for that comment. It was not just this one particular comment that I'm referring to. I realize I have a long way to go. That realization comes every single day I wake up. What I don't understand is that, after a person realizes this and humbles him/herself to errors they have in what they believe or have believed in the past and acknowledges this fact in front of God only knows how many reading this forum, why do some feel it is necessary to stick that final jab in? They have already acknowledged their error, as Drew did in the previous post. At least, it seemed to me he was responding well to correction and not arguing the point. This has not just happened in this one post. It has happened several times that I have seen. It almost seems as if previous postings are not read before making a comment at times. Even when the Samaritan took the guy who had been beaten and robbed to an inn to be taken care of, the priest who came by just went around him. He didn't kick him as he was walking by, he simply ignored his condition.
As I stated before, this is not just this one particular post and I'm not singling out only one comment in here. I hesitated to even post this reply. I may should have just left it as is and moved on but, I feel that I needed to give an explanation for my comment. Others are not as far along as some in here spiritually and I don't think people are naive either. Once a person acknowledges they understand a truth that is given to correct the errors in their belief, leave it alone. Quit typing, unless it's to encourage them. People are getting enough insults in the world without getting them in a place they come for answers. We also don't have to justify ourselves all the time either. NO ONE has arrived yet. We are all in this together and it is God who justifies the righteous. I'm not the forum police but I do know that when God has corrected me in the past, usually the person he uses to correct and make me feel ashamed doesn't even know they have been used for that purpose.
I apologize if I have hurt anyone and I won't say anymore. I have expressed a personal opinion here and if it's wrong, I'm quite sure I will be corrected for that also.
Peace and Mercy,
Grace
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Hi Grace,
I'm particularly tired, so maybe I shouldn't respond, but I'll venture in that direction anyway. The Sensitivity personality trait is one I certainly share with you, so I know where your coming from. The CAUSES both Genetically & Environmentally(Our experiences) are certainly contributing factors. Also, I've noticed that if I'm particular tired or having an especially bad day, it makes sense for me to type with caution or abstain, because under these circumstances(tired, irritable, low blood sugar or bad Day), I'm likely to snap. Also, if I'm in an emotionally high state, this can occur too. It's rare, but on occasion I've snapped at what I perceive as digs or jabs or wise crack remarks.
We have to ask God to help us discover the balance in all of this. My Dad was arrogant & sarcastic in an irritating way & sometimes at Age 88, He still is, maybe it's good for me that He lives in Naples, Florida. What I'm getting at, there must be a balance between the person that selfishly makes a snide remark deciding: " Well, it's my right to do so," in comparison with someone being overly sensitive & easily offended. It's My hope that God continues to help us attain the balance. I have reason to believe that the Apostle Paul wasn't an easy Chap to get along with, at times, remember, He was a Pharisee, from the Tribe of Benjamin and displayed a sharp burst of anger towards Barnabas regarding John Mark. Anyway, that's My 2 Cents or less, for what it's worth or not worth. And of course there is a big difference between being Ignorant and Stupid. Ignorance means you don't know the answer. Stupid means you know the right answer, but you still believe & follow the wrong answer, ;).
Kind Regards, Samson.
markn902:
--- Quote from: Samson on May 05, 2011, 05:59:51 PM ---
I've noticed that if I'm particular tired or having an especially bad day, it makes sense for me to type with caution or abstain, because under these circumstances(tired, irritable, low blood sugar or bad Day), I'm likely to snap. Also, if I'm in an emotionally high state, this can occur too. It's rare, but on occasion I've snapped at what I perceive as digs or jabs or wise crack remarks.
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well put Samson I try and do the same as I have been guilty of remarks I wish that later I had not written down. I am sarcastic by nature so that doesn't help. I think I have been learning patience,among other things, and that has helped some.
JohnMichael:
I'm just going to respond in general. This has been a serious issue with me as well, Grace. In fact, I've had to take James 1:19-20 to heart here lately. It's the verse that says, "be swift to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger for the anger of men worketh not the righteousness of God." I take very seriously the warnings Christ gave about "offending one of His little ones." I also take very seriously when someone attempts to become a "smarter than thou/holier than thou" Pharisee in attitude. Maybe it's my life experiences that have made me that way because I'm used to being put down, condemned, called names, etc. It makes me all the more protective of others.
Sometimes I get the impression that there are those who have become so fixated on driving off the "wolves" that they appear to have lost the ability to discern a wolf from a babe. That is just my opinion, but that's how it appears to me.
As I said in a previous thread: LOVING correction is one thing. Brutal sarcasm and cold apathy are something entirely different. There's enough of those attitudes and cold-heartedness over in Babylon. Leave them over there.
I realize that everyone here is a work in progress, and I try to keep that in mind. I try to not get angry when I see someone kicking a person while he's/she's down. It's not easy because every fiber of my being ignites in righteous indignation and wants to fly to that person's defense. However, I also keep in mind that "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy." I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that WE ALL need God's mercy.
Maybe tempering judgment with a little more mercy would help overall.
Just my $0.02 though.
Grace, please don't let the rough experiences prevent you from partaking of the spiritual nourishment. :)
John
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