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Just defending someone slightly...
gmik:
Unveiling 21:8 (Concordant Literal)
8 Yet the timid, and unbelievers, and the abominable, and murderers, and paramours, and enchanters, and idolaters, and all the false-their part is in the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.
This thread has gotten sorta high-jacked....back to Xander
THE TIMID???!!!! Timid is lumped in w/ murderers, etc.....please help explain !!!!
Gluttony is a sin also....Isn't sin sin??? No degrees of it.
Why is homosexuality worse than being timid???
I have known a fellow for years who is a celibate homosexual-no boyfriends ever- a virgin!!! He prays to God continually to make him straight. Hasn't happened yet. He goes to church, leads a good life as any, but hasn't been delivered.
As Ray said about smoking the same can be said about my friend...The Lord will deliver Him when He will and not before and maybe never.....and yet the Christian world feels differently about him than if he smoked or was fat!!
don't judge lest ye be judged
believerchrist100:
--- Quote from: gmik on May 25, 2011, 08:24:09 PM ---Unveiling 21:8 (Concordant Literal)
8 Yet the timid, and unbelievers, and the abominable, and murderers, and paramours, and enchanters, and idolaters, and all the false-their part is in the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.
This thread has gotten sorta high-jacked....back to Xander
THE TIMID???!!!! Timid is lumped in w/ murderers, etc.....please help explain !!!!
Gluttony is a sin also....Isn't sin sin??? No degrees of it.
Why is homosexuality worse than being timid???
I have known a fellow for years who is a celibate homosexual-no boyfriends ever- a virgin!!! He prays to God continually to make him straight. Hasn't happened yet. He goes to church, leads a good life as any, but hasn't been delivered.
As Ray said about smoking the same can be said about my friend...The Lord will deliver Him when He will and not before and maybe never.....and yet the Christian world feels differently about him than if he smoked or was fat!!
don't judge lest ye be judged
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Not exactly, there are degrees of sin. For instance consider this parable:
"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with MANY STRIPES. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with FEW STRIPES. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." (Luke 12:47-48)
The one who doesn't know the Lord's will and disobeys is less guilty than the one who knows his master's will, but disobeys anyway. There are numerous examples of degrees of sin. No doubt all sins are serious and worthy of death which is the wages of sin (Romans 6:23), but there are still degrees of sin.
Hope this helps.
And oh yes, to answer the question on why homosexuality is worse than being timid, here's a scriptural answer:
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." (1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
JohnMichael:
--- Quote ---"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." (1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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Just want to clarify that this is not limited to ONLY homosexuality. This includes ANY sex outside the commitment of marriage.
gmik:
hmmm..much to ponder....thanks but degrees or not the timid and the murderer go to the LOF..
it all goes round and round tho- God made the homosexual to be that way, and will punish him anyway.
we are sinning machines as Ray has said
God will sort it all out-its all in His Plan...
Sorry if that sounds like a wimpy phrase to get out of discussion. Late and going to bed ;)
JohnMichael:
--- Quote ---By Gmik:
God made the homosexual to be that way, and will punish him anyway.
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This was something I wrestled with for a long time back in my church days - most of my life actually. I rejected Christianity at 17 because of it. I felt like God betrayed me. I didn't think it was fair. It seemed more like God was being cruel rather than loving. I used to think, "Why couldn't I have been straight or a woman? Why couldn't I have been normal?" etc. Basically, the pot was questioning the Potter.
I don't profess to know why exactly He did this, but I keep faith that He has a purpose for it. From His perspective, there is a whole different story that I can't see. Some day, I hope to know what His side of the story is.
Living on faith ain't easy sometimes though ;D
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