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Extol:
Hebrews 2:14-15 (NLT): Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death. Only in this way could he set free all who have lived their lives as slaves to the fear of dying.

First the physical, and then the spiritual. These physical lives we live now are only a shadow of things to come. All flesh must be destroyed, because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 15:50), and  The flesh profits nothing (John 6:63).

It's hard and it's painful--although I didn't know anybody in it, this tornado hit me more than the other recent tragedies, because I'm from Springfield, MO, about an hour away.  But the truth remains, that these fleshly bodies must be destroyed. This is a very hard thing for Christians (and everyone else) to accept, and it's a major reason why there are only a select few who believe what we believe.

As Kat said, we see only through a glass darkly. We know only in part, and because of that, we are subjected to anger, confusion, frustration, and doubt. But God has given us enough of a glimpse to know that He knows what He is doing, "down to the vibration of the last electron" (L. Ray Smith).

Only in silence the word.
Only in dark the light.
Only in dying life...

--Ursula K. Le Guin

JohnMichael:
GK & Others,

I can definitely relate to how you feel. There have been times when I'm so angry at what's going on, but I dare not openly say it. I've always had a fear of He who holds my life in His hands in those moments.

While this scenario pales in comparison to situations like with this baby, I recently discovered that college credits which I was given when I transfered to my current school are now being ripped away from me. The reason behind it appears to be that the Admissions person lied to me in order for the school to get more money. My initial response was, "Lord, really? REALLY? Like I don't have enough to deal with right now? Where is the mercy? Why are you doing this to me? I already have enough to contend with. One thing at a time, Lord." Again, pot judging and questioning the Potter. Later in the day, I repented, and said, "Lord, you had this happen for a reason. I don't understand it. I'm not happy about it AT ALL. However, if it's Your will that I retake these courses, I will do so. If it is not Your will, then please show mercy and soften some people's hearts." 20 credits that were given to me are now being taken away. In terms of semesters, that's two whole semesters of work vanishing into thin air - an entire year's worth of work and study... GONE in the blink of an eye.

When we get angry at God for something that we can't even see the whole picture for, is it an extension of our pride? We deep down think that God is doing a bang-up job and that we would do it better? Maybe that is the precise reason why we go through things to cause this - to burn out that selfish pride. I'm merely posing these questions for thought; I am not accusing anyone. What are your thoughts?

John

gmik:
John go to another school that will accept those credits!! ;)

Kat, thanks for Ray's teachings...alwayys spot on...we will be beside ourselves w/ joy....boy that is awesome!

Hasn't Ray said somewhere that ...people really despise the word and God? down deep?...

When I get mad at God, because I would have handled it better (like no tornado, no babies dying etc), that is really setting myself up as God on my own throne and really, peeling back all my layers, is despising God!

That is not a place I want to be in.

arion:
I tend to be a pretty simple man...I don't try to figure it all out.  God is GOD and we are not.  We either trust him that he knows what he is doing and is working a perfect plan or we don't.  He has shown us enough through his word and his actions that he is working all out to the good.  That includes the Hitler's of this world and the evil that they do along with the child molesters as well as natural disasters.  I look at his mercy in my own life and I know with confirmation that is plan is both good and necessary.  The scripture sometimes has a hard word for us but it is a needful word.

Rom 9:20  Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

I realize the questions and the bewilderment of why things are the way that they are.  You look at the tornadoes that have swept away the just and the unjust and then consider all the evils of the world.....

It comes down to this simple question.  Do you trust him or do you not?  Do you believe his word that he is working out a plan that will be a 'win-win' for all of his creation or don't you?  I don't understand all of these things and why they need to happen but I do trust him that he knows what he is doing and I also trust his nature as he gave his own son for the propitiation of all of our sins.  That one act in and of itself is enough to prove his love for us.  He is God and we are not.  It is enough.

Rene:

--- Quote from: gk on May 26, 2011, 06:43:39 PM ---Whelp, I’m gonna rant to you like-minded believers.
 
God help us all, no really, because I believe I’m at the point of just hanging up my cleats.gk


--- End quote ---


Hi gk,

So you are at the point of "hanging up your cleats."  What does that mean?  Where you gonna go?  Sorry to tell you but there is no hiding place.  Even if you have lost faith and claim to no longer believe in God, you still can not change one thing about your existence and experience in this life. :-\ 

Faith is a gift from God.  My best advice for you is to pray and beg God for more faith .  The way I see it, the only way we can have peace of mind in this world is to know in our hearts that God is in control and all things are as they should be at this time.   

Just trying to keep it real. :)

René

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