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markn902:
Hi everyone

This is from Marques first response


--- Quote ---Childbirth, while extremely painful, brings a mother closer to her child than anyone can imagine. Something no man will ever understand. I don't think too many women would trade the bond they have with their child for anything in the world.
--- End quote ---

That made me think of how we are now being "born" in a spiritual sense and the 9 months of painful childbirth could be compared to our lives now.With the end being so much better than the beginning. How difficult life is now it will pale in comparison to the love that is coming. The same way a mother remembers how difficult a pregnancy/labor was but would never take it back for the love she feels for her child.So we are being "born again" in that sense (but it is a process not something that just happens one day at church)

That is what I thought of, or remembered, when reading this post anyway..

Have a good weekend  :)

Phil3:10:
Denise,
You did start a profound study for which I am most thankful. Much good was derived out of this topic and this is why this forum is so much more than a Sunday School lesson or some loud-mouthed preacher trying to indoctrinate his followers. DougE6 really brought the close I needed in stating the total sovereignty of GOD is all controlling but our pitiful effort to try and please HIM is needed. I find that my effort to please HIM often has beneficial results not only for me but to those whom I may help in some small way. GOD does it all but HE does tweek me sometimes to do what I feel are special things that without this special tweek I would not have done. GOD is the ultimate cause for everything and for this I am most thankful.
In HIM, Phil 3:10

Revilonivek:
Yeah, we learn alot through a hands on discussion. I learned a lot too.

I think this thing with Adam and Eve, is that men gained a conscience when they ate the fruit. What makes man different from all the rest of the creatures that God created: his conscience.  God purposely gave man a conscience by putting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden and have the serpent tempt them into eating the fruit.

Yes, they did disobey. But it was all a part of God’s plan so that they would become as one of God's. That’s exactly what He said: “Behold, man is become as one of us to know good and evil.”

just like us, and is able to consciously choose between what God establishes as right or wrong.

The whole plan from the beginning was to make man in God’s image, give him a conscience like God and make man one with God. This was even in Jesus’s prayer.

Joh 17:21  that they may be all one, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

What do you think? Do u think it is conscience that we gained from eating the fruit? That could explain our convictions when we do something we know is right or wrong?

Thoughts?

Phil3:10:
Denise,
Something very profound happened as soon as Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden. Conscience is as good an explanation as I can think of. All of a sudden they were ashamed of their nakedness and the eyes of  both were opened. They tried to hide from the Voice of the LORD GOD and when GOD asked Adam if he had eaten of the tree he did what most man do, he tried to blame it all on the woman. The curse to both the serpent and to man follows. Then the ability to know good and evil with all of it's ramifications is established for all mankind.
Of course, GOD planned this entire process and I am not certain mankind will every fully understand HIS reasons. As GOD'S finest creation mankind was endowed with a superior brain, creative intelligence, reasoning ability, conscience, and emotions unlike any of GOD'S other creations. GOD'S creation of man is beyond the scope of my imagination as well as HIS continuing creation of the Universe. GOD, HIS greatness and the wonder of HIS totality is in no way understandable to me. I just trust HIM to be everything, the all in all, and know that HIS love and mercy endures forever.
GOD'S plan for mankind is beyond the scope of my frail intelligence. Your quote of John 17:21 is as good an explanation as I can find in my study of GOD and HIS WORD, JESUS THE CHRIST. I am so very thankful to GOD for the gift of my conscience and feel it does set me apart from the other creations of GOD. I thank GOD and HIS PERFECT SON for everything, both good and evil, knowing that all works good for them that love GOD, who are called according to HIS purpose. Romans 8:14-29 offers to me the very best explanation of GOD'S plan for man that I can find in the Bible. Just knowing we are the children of GOD, that all children must grow in both nurture and admonition,  and that nothing is able to separate us from the love of GOD which is in CHRIST JESUS our LORD is the best peace I have.

In HIM,
Phil3:10

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