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Question from Denise (Revilonivek)
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---He never experienced a Life in a Body of Flesh, feeling Pain, emotions, etc.
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Not entirely true. He did experience emotions.
Samson:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on July 25, 2011, 09:18:17 AM ---
--- Quote ---He never experienced a Life in a Body of Flesh, feeling Pain, emotions, etc.
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Not entirely true. He did experience emotions.
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Sorry Dennis,
I stand corrected, as Spirit, He did indeed experience Emotions, but I guess I didn't express myself clearly enough, figuring that while We(everyone else) consist of this Fleshly Body, the experience of Emotions "might" be somewhat different, similar, but different, but I don't really know.
Thanks, Samson.
Marky Mark:
--- Quote ---Excellent point Samson
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost
This is the 'completion' or perfection that is spoken of in Hebrews 5:9.
Marques
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Marques,I do not believe that Jesus was perfected or made complete until he was resurrected.
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Luk 13:32 And he said unto them—Go and tell this fox, Lo! I am casting out demons, and, cures, am I finishing, to-day, and to-morrow,—
Luk 13:33 and, on the third, I am to be made perfect.
His resurrection on the third day became the cause for our salvation.
Heb 5:9 And being perfected, He became the cause of eonian salvation to all who are obeying Him,
When Jesus was dead in the tomb, He had not yet been quickened.
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Rev 1:17 ..... I, am the First, and the Last,
Rev 1:18 and the Living One,—and I became dead;—and lo! living, am I, unto the ages of ages, and have the keys of death and of hades.
Peace...Mark
Craig:
Mark I see what you are saying but here is a question. Was Christ perfect when He created the earth? Was He perfect when He and the Father began creating man in their image?
I know you mean the physical Christ made lower than the angels, but Christ was before he was born of Mary.
Craig
DougE6:
--- Quote ---The answer: No human being can follow Jesus' example.
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Do you mean ..No human being can follow Jesus example without the spirit of Christ? The scriptures tell us to follow Jesus example...
1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
So I think we need to be filled with the spirit so we can indeed follow Jesus example...Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.....Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; ....Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
--- Quote ---God is creating judges.
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How True! Yet...Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
We really need to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil, through the spirit, as Christ did, if we are to sit on the throne with Him. Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 1Jn 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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