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chrissiela:
Hi Harryfeat!

I agree that "Babylon the Great" cannot possibly be refering directly to the "Catholic Church" or any other modern day church/religion.

If it does refer to a church/religion (and I think that it does, though there is probably also some "worldliness" in there too, as "fornication" or "adultery" is commited with her) then I think that it refers to the Jewish nation/religion - God's "chosen people".

Seems to me that the "mother" comes "first" so it has to  refer to the "one" with whom it all started and that is not the catholic church. It was the Jews that were God's "chosen" and to whom the oracles of God were given and it was they who were left "desolate", when they crucified their Saviour and the gospel was taken from them and given to the Gentiles.

Blessings,
Chrissie

jerry:
wow! chrissie talk about spirtualizing everything,with all the confussion of words not meaning what they do in real language its a wonder that Gods people can tell what he want us to know, talk a but babylon.I quess God can do what he wants to after all He is God.Im still looking for real answers in the here and now.Most of what Ive read on revalations has been a bunch of preconcieve Ideas thats been around since martin luther :-\,Time will tell though Ill wait on the Lamb to open the seals befor I get all puffed up...........God bless Jerry

Lightseeker:
Chrissie


--- Quote ---Dee
I am curious Chrissie as to why you said the city Jerusalem is his bride.  Is there a scripture to that effect?
--- End quote ---

Good job, I forgot about this verse which you posted.  Now I'm wondering if means something because of the fact that it is "new" Jerusalem like you noted with bold  ???

Rev 21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

No corrections from me, and the questions were just me pondering things for anyone who might have a comment or correction, for me.  :o

 

jerry:
Wow,I thought revalations was supose to make things clearer to understand,the way some folk are throwing words around to fit thier on ideas is amazing,let me get this straight,first I though you were saying bablylon the great is christianity mainstream or something like that,then you said it could'nt possable be,now its Israel,then you say it all started with the catholic church,so babylon started with the catholic church when did that happen,this convesation is making my head spin LOL,Im not trying to be mean but does'nt there have to be some kind of rule for study,starting with the origin of a names like babylon,Church,Nation,Isreal,Jerusalem.I think this study should start over but not in the book of revalations but the the book of geneses....................Jerry

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