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HELL AND THE TRINITY?

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Satch:
Dennis , I did not take offense at what you wrote back at all. I highly respect you as you have shown the type of man you must be in the time I have been here. If you go on to read the post above and below yours , I think you will see why I need to be removed. I don't want to create anything that would divert people from their study , worship and fellowship on the forum. Most Sincerely and may God bless you, Satch

Steve Crook:

--- Quote from: Satch ---Please forgive if I am speaking out of turn but in reading the post by Rachel, she did provide a lot of scripture. It does seem that she has studied and gone to the Bible. The Bible is our "touchstone" in the truths that we live by. I don't have an original scroll written in the Hebrew or Greek and I don't know of anyone who does. We take the translation we have and study and read to the best of our abilities. Everyone has the right to express their opinion and what they see in the scriptures. I don't think they should be " shot down".
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--- Quote ---Everyone has the right to express their opinion and what they see in the scriptures. I don't think they should be "shot down".
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This is exactly why the "church" is the way it is today. "Lets just all get along". "Unity in the essentials, tolerance in the non-essesntials." Fact is, a person can post every scripture in a bible translation and still be doing ONLY THAT. It's the same exact thing that pastors do on Sunday mornings. They will take 1-2 verses, GIVE THEIR INTERPRETATION of those verses...and there is the sermon for the day. PLEASE!

Fact is, scripture will define scripture. Fact is, take a KJV, NIV, NASV, YLT, and ALL THE OTHER translations and it can be show that they all have contradictions (the KJV has MANY) in the translating they are in. That is why we are told to study to show ourselves proved worthy, but we are not told to use scriptures that back up our "opinion".

I use to be apart of that crowd too. I was a "Southern Baptist Hell-fire follower" from birth, being born into such a family. I know the ends and outs of being a baptist. I've had my eyes and ears opened by the Lord to now know that if you know one, you know them all. The denominations out there are all divided, but yet have the truth? NONE OF THEM HAVE ONE DOCTRINAL TRUTH, including the church you attend. Not ONE TRUTH. Show me?

I'm sure you'll have your thoughts about my comments. Let the Lord be the judge of them. You are at a point where you will need to be able to show whether you stand on a foundation of sand or a foundation built on THE ROCK. Thus sayeth the Lord: (1Pe 4:17)  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Christ NEVER EVER supported such a DAMNABLE heresy such as hell-fire for all eternity. ALL those who even slightly think it if ok for a wolf, such as this poster, to come into our midst and spewn these ungodly remarks and be accepted AND NOT EXPOSED AND SHOT DOWN, well they are an enemy of God.

Steve Crook

Dennis Vogel:
But Steve, there was a time when we all believed in hell, etc. We need to be kind if the person is willing to listen and discuss. But if someone has an agenda then we show them the door.

Dennis

YellowStone:
Satch, I have read many of your posts and I know that you have a lot to say. As for being a stumbling block and not wanting to cause anyone to stumble; this is admirable.

However, I must ask if you agree with Rays argument or that of Rachels? I would suggest that you respond to this board in the "christ-like" manner you see fit to as to help the likes of Rachel. Not all of us would answer everything in the same manner as Ray. He is not God and does not pretend to be. If you can offer more, then please do, but please do not be so quick to condemn.

Lastly, I am very sorry that you feel this forum has nothing to offer you. Are you so comfortable? I pray that you do have the sincerity of heart and that you continue to stay and read and learn the "real" truth.

Darren

YellowStone:
Bobby, you said this way better than I did. :)

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