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Craig:
To add to my post.  I would say the vast majority on the forum have already tried working their way to election and have failed miserably.  Most have been down the road of going church multiple times a week.  Have tithed religiously, served as teachers, deacons, elders, music, volunteers, etc. etc.  Depending on the denomination they have kept religious days and holidays.  Refrained from whatever vice the leader of the church declares forbidden and a whole host of rules and regulations.  They worked and strived very hard and then one day by the grace of God they realized that no matter how hard they worked they are nothing but dung.  God showed them that works will not mend their wicked and sinful hearts. 

What are we doing now?  I hope we are living our lives, emptying ourselves and God is replacing us with him little by little.  In His time not ours.

Craig

Ireland:
Doug, I for one am not put off by your testimony or your efforts to live for our Lord Jesus. My frustration stems from your constant exhortation as if you were the Apostle Paul himself. To correct or admonish someone from time to time out of love is one thing, but to post almost everytime about your zeal and works is down right self righteous to me. You seem very sincere and your desire is comendable, however your constant reminders are discouraging. I would be ashamed to talk about myself so much to people I have never even met face to face, much less people that are trying to overcome this difficult life. If some here are not living up to your standards then pm them privately in hopes to help them without sounding so arrogant. I too get frustrated at times being around less mature Christians (or should I say- unlearned in these truths) but my heart is reminded constantly that I too was there not so long ago. My attitude is to help them and humble myself. Sorry if I am too abrasive with this reply, but just hope that you will keep your never ending reminders of how spiritual you are to yourself. Point to our Lord more and less of yourself. Thank you

Stacey:
Musicman, so you believe in evolution huh? That's great, glad that's working for ya. I don't. Never have and I don't reckon I will unless God decides I will. I looked up the guy who wrote the book you mentioned. He has some interesting stuff but I don't care to listen to it. Short, very short attention span.

Doug

--- Quote ---Is God going to give the prize to people who don't want it with all their heart?
--- End quote ---

Craig

--- Quote ---I will chime in with my opinion.  Yes He will. 
--- End quote ---

huh? How do you believe that Craig? I don't believe that God will hand out the prize to anyone who does not want it. Eventually sure but not before a great work is done in all of us to cause us to want it with all our hearts. < Am I wrong about that?



lauriellen:
reading thru this conversation brought this passage of scripture to mind:

Joh 10:1  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2  But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3  To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Joh 10:4  And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5  And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Craig, i heard the voice of the shepherd in your posts, loud and clear. thanks so much.

River:
Here is some serious evolution going on here:  :D

Actually I thought of this scripture when reading Craigs response. Which I thought was excellent by the way.

 Luke 15: 19-23
19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.

   “But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

   21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’

   22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.

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