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Deborah-Leigh:
...guilty of one, guilty of all....ahem...anyone see the Fashion Police....their tracks are here...they were here! ~ ;D :)
A Priest told me in confession...I was in confession, not the Priest! LOL...well may be not...The Priest said "guilt is the sin"...
I learned something that day! God removes the sin and the guilt and no name calling finger pointing or religious bashing is going to do the trick!~ :D ;D
.....you have got to stop thinking that God is a man, or thinks like a man, or is as weak and stupid as a man. God DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO CLEARLY SEE WHAT HE IS DOING.
God operates in MYSTERIES. He teaches in PARABLES. He prophesies in METAPHORS AND ALLEGORIES. He writes whole books in SYMBOLS. God is not trying to save this world now. http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2646.0.html
"...Do not worry about anything..." Phil 4:6 (CLNT)
We don't have to worry about anything because Jesus is the Savior. You cannot save yourself. Saving you is Jesus' problem so let Him do His work.
Until He saves you, you will suffer with your problems just like the rest of us. There is no secret handshake, no special chant, no physical words or rituals to save you.
All of your problems come from God, which He is using to form you. Only Jesus has the keys to your prisons. One day, you shall be released, and will dwell in the broad, sunlit uplands of life. A JFK quote 8) http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13760.msg121183.html#msg121183
Okay, let’s move on.
So there are four things that happen with sin:
1. Committed
2. Remitted
3. Repented
4. Removed
That’s the sequence. Repentance is where you accelerate this. All through your life you learn to mature... learn to operate in society... learn to obey the laws of the higher powers and so on... stopping at stop signs... staying under the speed limit etc... You do all these things, which are admirable, we should do them. But there comes a time when you have to just stop doing 'good' things and repent of who and what you are. Then you will start to make real progress.
We sin... God forgives it.
We repent... God removes it.
That’s the way it’s done and it will be done that way with every human being.
All have sinned... God has forgiven all.
All will repent... and all sin will be removed. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3709.0.html
River:
mharrell08 wrote "Is this starting to come together yet?"
Yeah I think it is. I think I can understand why certain posters might no longer be around. They proably wanted to get a divorce from the long robed responders.
Heidi:
--- Quote from: River on January 02, 2012, 01:15:41 AM ---mharrell08 wrote "Is this starting to come together yet?"
Yeah I think it is. I think I can understand why certain posters might no longer be around. They proably wanted to get a divorce from the long robed responders.
--- End quote ---
River reading your posts, I can tell that you are a very deep and serious person and God loves you for being you....thank you for speaking your mind......., but do also reflect upon the fact that not everyone all of the time are wrong. One of the best gifts God has given me was to have a teachable spirit. There is much wisdom in mharrell08's post.
Heidi
Craig:
--- Quote ---I think I can understand why certain posters might no longer be around.
--- End quote ---
Some if not most are not longer here because the idol of their hearts become exposed and they will not/cannot except that they me be wrong. I am the same way, but someday we will know better.
Marques' post and Ray's responses were full of wisdom, but if the idol of our own hearts are pricked our first inclination is to attack the messenger. That my friends is the Beast Within. I have come to recognize that "beast" and it is in me and everyone of us. Realizing this, my race in this life is to slowly let go of my own idols, it is a struggle with a lot of pit stops along the way.
I don't believe God sits in heaven with a rule book out and says "if you do this then I will punish you like this" God's wisdom is revealed in the Bible and in parables and symbols. He tells us that if we make certain decisions and mistakes then the effect of these choices will always be there for us to deal with. Cause and effect. Why did God create us so weak? Why doesn't God just create us strong so that we only will make the right choices? Read that again..."Why doesn't God create us strong?". Friends, He is "creating" us strong, we are in the creation stage, this is part of our creation process.
God likens Himself to a cleansing fire. Let's consider that we are a nugget of gold taken from the ground, and let us also assign feelings and emotions to the gold. O.K?, so there we are in the ground buried safe and sound all is fine according to our knowledge and we are comfortable. Then one day we feel a vibration around us, we become frightened and curious, the noises and vibrations increase and suddenly we are hoisted from our comfort zone and there is a light shining on us. We don't like this, we like our comfort better. We don't recognize that we are dirty we don't know much of anything. We look over to our right and spot the most beautiful sight, a nugget of Gold that is pure and shines like nothing we have ever seen, we are in awe. We are setting there and we hear a voice saying that we will be a beautiful work of pure Gold that will shine as much as the One we saw before, our creation has started. We are excited now, this will be great.
Suddenly we are being hosed off by water, we don't like this, this is bad to us, it is not natural to have this happen. We ask why?, why?, why could we not be left alone? We were comfortable with the dirt we liked it, it was natural to us. Then we are left alone to dry and we look at ourselves and though we can see some gold and a few shiny spots, we realize we are still dirty. Suddenly we are hoisted into an intense heat, it is more painful than anything we have ever experienced. It feels like our insides are being ripped out, we are being reformed. Things that were a part of us is slowly leaving us, we don't want to give them up but as they go we start to feel cleaner. The heat of the fire is overwhelming and we cry out for it to stop. We don't want to give up the impurities in us we fight to keep them, but as we become cleaner we feel better. We are removed from the heat and suddenly we realize that we have become as pure and shiny as the Gold we saw before and we hear a voice saying that we are finished. We have been created. We are pure, we no longer want the impurities and don't even remember why we wanted them in the first place.
That gold is us, we are being created strong and pure like Christ. The impurities (our idols and sins) will be gone someday. Your all's impurities and sins may be different from mine and I am learning not to judge others. And I don't begrudge you your beliefs or struggles, but I can read God's word and He tells us what is not pure.....
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, or thieves, those who are greedy or drunk, who use abusive language, or who rob people will not inherit the kingdom of God"
That is one verse in Corinthians, there are many verses that tells us where we are not pure, where we are failing. None are pure and all of us fails. Again I will not judge or condemn anyone's failings as mine are probably worse, but I will not justify an impurity as being pure.
And now I've come full circle, an idol of our heart is when we cannot accept or see our failings and then look to justify them and declare them just. That is wrong and something we all need to guard against. If anyone is dealing with or struggling with or even comfortable with their impurities, I will not look down on you or condemn you, I will be your friend, I will give a hand to help you. However I will not lend an ear to your justification of sin.
Craig
GaryK:
The amazing thing about this thread is I didn’t see a question mark in Dre’s initial post, just statements.
Especially these:
--- Quote from: dre91 on December 31, 2011, 09:17:05 AM ---
I know I'm committing adultery…..
My conscience is really bothering me…………
I feel……..ashamed.
--- End quote ---
You already know what's working there Dre, and my guess is that's why you didn't ask a question to begin with.
But the winner is!!!!!!!!............?:
--- Quote from: dre91 on December 31, 2011, 09:17:05 AM ---
Thanks for your replies but the next time I will just keep my business to myself.
--- End quote ---
Good advice.
But, no you probably won't. Why?...because we share our 'like' struggles on this forum because it's a tough fight and we all need support from those who understand. As for the topic itself there's some really good information here and good analogies, as well. As for some of the other replies???.......well....... about as valuable as the product of the anatomy part that JFK mentioned.
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