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gmik:
Dre91.....none of my business at all, BUT.....please tell me that this new lady DOESN"T mind your new beliefs or better still that she believes it.....
DO NOT marry out of guilt - get out of her bed/house if she doesn't know how you believe
but marrying cuz your sleeping together is NO reason to marry!!!
Again.....none of my beeswax but you did put it out there..... ::)
River:
I use to think way back that all this sort of stuff was cut and dry. And of course the churches always make it sound like that. But I have searched this matter out to no end and there is no exact way to do it. This is one of those subjects I don't agree on with most the forum members it seems. First off it always gets turned into a physical act it hangs on and second on the authority of pagan customs and government powers. And since when did co-habitaing become adultery? Later I see the term "sleeping together" comes up. Are we that afraid to talk about the reality of sex? Over 6 billion people alive on the planet, you know what that means don't you? This is one of those issues that the churches use to beat down people with. We have no free will right? But yet we say don't do this and don't do that. I understand why we do that but I really do think we get into a muddled religious mindframe with this subject. And with saying this I don't approve of just having sex for whatever reason, but I also think it is totally silly to think it is somehow legit just because someone is "married." I really hope others are able to see the depth of that statement. For me marriage has nothing to do with sex. Doesn't anyone see the deeper meaning of this parable? :-\
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: River on December 30, 2011, 08:58:16 PM ---I use to think way back that all this sort of stuff was cut and dry. And of course the churches always make it sound like that. But I have searched this matter out to no end and there is no exact way to do it. This is one of those subjects I don't agree on with most the forum members it seems. First off it always gets turned into a physical act it hangs on and second on the authority of pagan customs and government powers. And since when did co-habitaing become adultery? Later I see the term "sleeping together" comes up. Are we that afraid to talk about the reality of sex? Over 6 billion people alive on the planet, you know what that means don't you? This is one of those issues that the churches use to beat down people with. We have no free will right? But yet we say don't do this and don't do that. I understand why we do that but I really do think we get into a muddled religious mindframe with this subject. And with saying this I don't approve of just having sex for whatever reason, but I also think it is totally silly to think it is somehow legit just because someone is "married." I really hope others are able to see the depth of that statement. For me marriage has nothing to do with sex. Doesn't anyone see the deeper meaning of this parable? :-\
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Cohabiting becomes adultery when God says so.
"Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge." Hebrews 13:4
Sex outside marriage is sin. It is one thing to show mercy to sinners. It is another thing to show disrespect to God's laws. We think too much of ourselves when we do so.
I am an unmarried man. I want to have sex with women just watching them walk. But I don't make the rules. God's rules are so strict that just looking at women with lustful desires is sin.
Also, God made sex. He is not shy about speaking about it. An entire book of scriptures, the Song of Songs is about sexual relations between a man and woman, especially when you check the Hebrew references. That book also has a higher spiritual theme. It was one of the Festival scrolls read during the Passover and Days of Unleavened Bread.
Ray has an excellent study on marriage and its scriptural definitions.
octoberose:
Dear dre,
I appreciate many of the answers you've recieved so far but John is right- what are you doing with a woman you're not married to?! If your wife left you, so be it. There is only so much you can do about that ( she actually left you because you believe in universal salvation? ) But what kind of example are you to this other woman, and especially her children? Are you light and salt- are you beyond reproach? Or are you doing what Romans 6 refers to as " sinning so that grace abounds?". Really, what are you doing? >:(
Stop it. But do it without being unkind to the woman you're with- you've already taken what is not yours. How would you want to be treated if you were her? What is God telling you?
dre91:
Thanks for your replies but the next time I will just keep my business to myself.
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