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acomplishedartis:
you guys, listen to the kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSsZ-4RIk0A&feature=related

mavis92379:
Hi Gang,

The purpose of the thread was never to suggest Einstein had a better understanding than God. It was to suggest just what kind understanding Jesus possessed of the universe and its mysteries. The disciples were able to heal the sick also and raise the dead. Is there something scientific about raising dead people that can be explained ? Jesus Christ DID SOMETHING TO THESE PEOPLE WHEN HE HEALED THEM ! The women touched his garmet and power left him ! What is this power ? Can this power that cures people of diseases and raises them from the dead on some insane level of intelligence be explained  ? I have no doubt in my mind that Jesus performed many miracles. But could he actually explain what he did when he performed one ? It appears to me like he altered laws at will to accomplish things like walking on the water and healing sick people.

Im sorry I just believe he did these things but am just fascinated and perplexed on the possibilities on what he actually did to accomplish them !

Gina:
I find it just as fascinating when someone goes and gets a clear diagnosis of cancer and then people simply pray for that person and then there's no trace of cancer anywhere in their body.  Or, like, in the case of Ray, that's a miracle--he isn't supposed to be here according to "science."

Consider, too, that there was a town that Jesus entered but didn't perform many miracles there because of their lack of faith/unbelief.  As if to say that faith/belief on the our part (that Jesus does heal) is part and parcel of the miracles Jesus performs.  Though, we know we have nothing (including faith/belief) that wasn't first given us. 

I'm sure it can be explained logically and not insanely, lol,  (like when Galileo was considered "mad" by the Roman Church because he understood that the earth was not flat and that it revolved around the sun and not the other way around).

Consider this:  we witness a miracle with the rising of the sun every day. There are miracles we're witnessing every day all around us.  Are we overlooking them and considering them not miraculous simply because we're accustomed to seeing them everyday?   I sure don't know the answer, but I'm willing to listen and to speculate all day long is what I'm trying to say.  :-)

Gina:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on January 31, 2012, 10:11:24 PM ---What we know as light is only a small section of the larger electromagnetic spectrum, which is part of the physical creation of God.  God's light is not the same as the light we see.  It's like comparing lightning to a lightning bug.

In the Book of Isaiah it states that God created darkness.  Darkness is a created thing to shroud the true Light of God from our view, or It would destroy us.

And, yes, when we are born again, we will try to race a light beam and go faster than it.  Why?  Because it's there and we can.  It's part of the spark of God in us.  We will do things just for the fun of it.

--- End quote ---

Darkness is only created when God removes His light.  To get darkness you remove light, you don't bring darkness in.

John 1:4-5  In him was life, and that life was the light of men.  The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 

Some versions do not say "overcome" but "comprehend' or "perceive."

per·ceive

1. to become aware of, know, or identify by means of the senses: I perceived an object looming through the mist.

2. to recognize, discern, envision, or understand: I perceive a note of sarcasm in your voice.

Origin:
1250–1300; Middle English perceiven  < Anglo-French *perceivre,  for perçoivre  < Latin percipere  to lay hold of, grasp, equivalent to per- per-  + -cipere,  combining form of capere--to take

Akira329:
Hey Matt!
Your not alone....
I think about these things too!
I do believe something was happening to these people that could be explained.
I do believe science one day will be able to explain maybe replicate someday.
I'm not superstitious so an explanation will be given one day.

I think about it this way....
For God to turn water into wine a chemical process must be going on right?

As God is the creator of the universe he knows the chemical formula for specific wines.
Water has a molecular formula and as chemical elements are added to that formula the properties of water change.
What's amazing is how God does this without physically adding anything to the the water.
As all things have a chemical make up God knows what was needed to turn water into wine and besides, he has better access to these chemical elements than we do.

We need a lab, he does it anywhere!

You can apply this same process to any miracle Christ performed. Each with there own set of complications.

Also remember Matt what's more important:
John 14:12  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

I believe what we should realize is that as advances in science progress so does the realty that these types of miracle healings will be common.
There will be a day where we won't marvel at the regeneration of an amputees arms, legs, or even head!
Because, so what!!
It doesn't change the heart of that man or woman.
Christ healed many people and yet that healing does not convert any of them.

We have to remember that the greater work is the work of salvation!
Physically healing someone is one of God's many tools in that process.

We have a lot to learn but.....
repent first!!  ;)

Antaiwan

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