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Kat:
Hi thetruth,
I agree with Gina, God breaths into all livings creatures the breath of life.
Gen 7:22 of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life...
I would like to add that it is another Spirit/Comforter from God that is given to the Elect now, and all will evenually receive the Holy Spirit also, but now in this life only the chosen few.
John 15:26 And when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He shall testify of Me.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
So to me the spirit of life is like what Gina was saying, it simply gives physical life, but we all need another Spirit from the Father in order to move on into spiritual LIFE, where our eyes are opened and we can understand spiritual truths. Here is what Ray said in an email about this.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4176.0.html -----------
ALL men (and animals) have a spirit. This spirit gives life to the body and produces soul (feelings, thinking, emotions, etc.). But God dwells in our hearts and minds by way of His HOLY Spirit, which is a different spirit.
God be with you,
Ray
thetruth:
Hello, Gina,and Kat
Gina thanks for that example that really helps me to undestand.Its funny sometimes how you start to think upon things and realize how little you know about some things...lol...I had never considered this ever, seems a little odd it never come to my mind.I guess thats proof that you never have a bad question?
Kat, thanks to you also as always your very helpful and insightful!And thanks for that last post you shared from Ray:
ALL men (and animals) have a spirit. This spirit gives life to the body and produces soul (feelings, thinking, emotions, etc.). But God dwells in our hearts and minds by way of His HOLY Spirit, which is a different spirit.
God be with you....... So thanks again Marques.Kat.Gina.I knew I could count on your help!If anyone has more I will sure take it!
Duane:
thetruth--As Ray likes body, soul, spirit to a television set.
The set = body
ON stage = spirit (the electricity that brings the to to life)
programming = soul (thought, personality, emotion or watch-able programs)
When the electricity is turned off the tv "dies" (spirit is retrieved by God)
The programming and set get "buried" until the resurrection and the NEW BODY will comprise the NEW spirit joining the soul (programming) -- the set will decay and decompose. It will be replaced by a HEAVENLY Mansion (body). "In My Father's house are MANY (heavenly bodies of people) mansions". John 14:6
Hope this helps: Ray's explanation is the BEST I have ever heard and everybody can understand it!
Dave in Tenn:
From http://bible-truths.com/kennedy2.htm
TV ANALOGY: Body, spirit & Soul
Here is an analogy that is applicable and easy to understand: God's spirit gives life to the body. Only in life does a man have consciousness or sensation. When God takes back His spirit, the body and soul are dead.
Picture a TV console as representing the human BODY with all its intricate circuitry and components.
Now picture ELECTRICITY as the invisible, powerful force representing God's life-giving SPIRIT.
Picture the blank PICTURE TUBE as representing the SOUL.
Without the electricity (God's spirit), the TV and picture tube (body and soul) are dead. All the time I hear preachers talking about our souls and our spirits as if they were one and the same. Soul and spirit are not one and the same.
Next plug in the electricity (God's spirit). The TV comes to life, and we see the picture tube (soul) animated. We see color, sound, dancing, singing, talking, intelligent conversations, all live via satellite. The dead TV becomes a living, visible, animated, intelligent entity-"Soul." But notice very carefully, the Soul (the animated picture in the TV tube) is not one of the original components. It is not a component in and by itself, but is rather the result of two other vital components, Body and Spirit (the TV console and electricity).
At bedtime I sometimes tell my daughter to give the TV a rest. When one turns off the "on/off" switch the TV goes to "sleep." The power light is still on, but the TV is blank and silent.
But now, pull the plug and take away the electricity (spirit) and what happens to the TV console (body)? It dies. It's just a box of circuits. Not even the power light is on anymore. If left unplugged it will, in time, decay and return to the dust of the ground.
And what happens to the colorful animated picture on the screen (soul) when we take away the electricity (spirit)? Want the real answer? Ask a child. Let several children watch TV together, then pull the plug and ask them where the picture went? A child will shrug his shoulders or say "I don't know" or say "It disappeared." Guess what? He is Scripturally correct on all three counts.
Without spirit there is no life and no consciousness. Without power a TV has no life and no animated picture. It's dead.
If you were to ask an ancient Hebrew person what happens to the soul (the thinking, feeling, animated, sentient personality of a man) at death, he would shrug his shoulders or say "who knows" or just say "it disappears." That's what "Sheol" meant to the Hebrews. It was a question mark. And the Greeks had their word for the same idea (Hades-the UNSEEN, the IMPERCEPTIBLE), and hades and sheol are synonymous in Scripture (Ps 16:10 & Acts 2:27).
There is one more profound Scriptural truth that is also perfectly analogous to the operation of a TV, and that is this: Picture God's Throne as the Broadcast Headquarters. The TV picture Tube, by itself, is not the source or originator of the picture it portrays on the screen. It is a channel for the signal transmitted from the TV Station and Tower. It can only manifest and portray on its screen that which is sent from the source [God]. And often the source [God] uses intermediaries like satellites [Angels] to relay the signals.
In Scripture, death is called a "return" [Heb. shub]. Before we were born we had no body, no soul, and no perception of any kind. At birth God gave us a body, implanted to us His spirit, which gives the body perception (through the brain and the five senses). At death, we [shub] RETURN. The reversal of what happened at birth. The spirit returns to God (Ecc. 12:7), the body returns to the dust (all the elements of man's body are found in the ground or earth) (Job 10:9, Ecc. 3:18-21), and the soul returns to no perception again (the imperceptible or unseen-hades) (Acts 2:27 and Psalm 49:15). This is what the Scriptures very plainly teach: where all that man "is" came from, that's where all that man "is" returns to.
thetruth:
Thanks Duane,Dave
I have no trouble with understanding of Spirit ,Soul, Body and its function in this exsperience called life.I am trying to come to grips with this "Breathe of life"vs "Spirit of God" if you will.And as i have this quote from my friend Dave:
In Scripture, death is called a "return" [Heb. shub]. Before we were born we had no body, no soul, and no perception of any kind. At birth God gave us a body, implanted to us His spirit.
OK...FIRST let me say I am thankful for what everyone is sharing with me and I respect each one who has posted and have helped me out here.Really very thankful for your help.
But this qoute :implanted to us His Spirit....is were my brain is warping on...lol.
Because if He implanted ...His Spirit... then thats different than this "Breathe of life"Because as I am understanding it.. this Breathe of life is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than The Holy SPIRIT.So which is it ...WHEN God breathed in the nostrills of man...was it The Holy Spirit OR the "breathe of life"? If your tired of dealing with me I dont blame you!thetruth
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