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Why there is no rapture
doug:
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--- Quote from: santgem on May 22, 2012, 02:02:44 AM ---"New heaven and a New Earth
@ Santgen -
I'm thinking the new heaven and the new earth will be in another era? Futher on down the road? Possibly in the last era?
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Marky Mark:
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Eph 2:6 And raised us up together, and seated us together in the heavenlies, in Christ:
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Peace...Mark
doug:
There are five eons mentioned in scripture. I could look up all the verses but it would take awhile.
An eon is an indefinite period (does not mean eternity)
Before the eons: before the ages began, before any of the "beginning's" mentioned in scripture. I Cor 2:7.
The first eon: The beginning, creation of the heaven and earth - the first heaven and earth. Genesis one.
The second eon: The creation of man at the seven days of creation up to the flood of Noah's day.
The third eon: This present eon; this wicked eon ending at the coming of Christ.
The fourth eon: The coming Kingdom Age or Millennium ending at the Great White Throne Judgment.
The fifth eon: The New Heaven and New Earth.
Ephesians 2:7 speaks of the oncoming eons, i.e. ages to come.
The conclusion of God's purpose of universal reconciliation, Christ turns over to His God and Father the reconciled universe for which He died... where in:
God is ALL in ALL
eggi:
From http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html
Jesus could live "on earth" and "in heaven" at the same time! But carnal men live in the heaven of their minds all the time. Man’s heaven is a place of spiritual delusion; whereas God’s heaven is a place of spiritual enlightenment.
"And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the EARTH [of man] and the HEAVEN [of man] fled away; and there was found NO PLACE FOR THEM… And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a NEW heaven and a NEW earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." (Rev. 20:11, 16 & 21:1).
It would be mind-boggling enough to think that the entire UNIVERSE could "flee away," but it would be quite another to then suggest that, "there was found NO PLACE FOR THEM." That would be absurd if taken literally. ALL THESE THINGS ARE SPIRITUAL! In the white throne judgment there will be no more a place for the flesh, for the carnal mind, for man’s heaven. There will truly be no place found for them. They will be annihilated in God’s "CONSUMING FIRE" (Heb. 12:29 & I Cor. 3:15)!
God will give man a new earth and a new heaven, and as for the great sea of carnal, God-defying humanity, "…and there was NO MORE SEA."
Kat:
We know for certain that God has a plan already worked out. He already knows how many people He will have brought into existence when Christ returns. He also knew how big to build the earth so it could handle to number of people that would be here at any time. We don't know how the resurrection of the dead will take place, perhaps it will be in stages, though I don't know of a Scripture that suggests that.
We do know that there will be great changes to take place when Christ takes over rulership of this planet. The earth as we have it now is about 71% water and 29% land. Deserts actually make up 33%, or 1/3rd of the land’s surface area, roughly 10.6% of the world's land is considered arable (tillable). But the Scripture have some good news about that.
Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the dry land shall be glad; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
That one thing will make a huge difference, but God may have quite a bit of other changes that will take place with the land as well. God may remove the curse on the land, so that it will not be so hostile towards working and growing things.
Gen 3:17 ...cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
v. 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field.
v. 19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return."
Also the very nature of the animals will be changed.
Isa 11:6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them.
v. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
v. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den.
v. 9 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.
Will all the animals become herbivores? Will there not be savage beast that roam the earth any more? Will God take away hostility from nature as well as man?
These are just a couple of the tremendous changes the Scriptures talk about that will profoundly alter the way of life on this planet once Jesus Christ returns. I would surmise that there will be many more wonders that will take place as well.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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