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eggi:
Hi all,

Just a thought. Maybe you already discussed this and I didn't get it. :) I think they knew what they were doing as to getting rid of someone that they considered a troublemaker and speaker of blasphemy, but had they known just WHO they killed they would not have done it. So they knew very well what they did but they didn't understand WHO they did this to. Paul also believed that when Christians were tracked down and killed, it was really a GOOD thing. Well that was his understanding at that time, but clearly it was totally wrong. But it's not like he didn't know what he was doing.

Again, just a thought.

God bless you,
Eirik

Gina:
That's it in a nutshell.  Beautiful!

Gina:
Extol (and Eggi) I saw this a while back:

Dear Jennifer:

. . .
 
When Jesus warned of this sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, it was when He had cast out demons. The Scribes said that Jesus cast out devils by the prince of devils (Mark 3:22).  The Pharisees also accused Him of this very same thing (Matt. 9:34). And we are told that Jesus gave that stern warning, "Because they said, He [Jesus] has an unclean spirit."
 
But this alone is not all there is to this sin. Even in the Old Testament, when one sinned "ignorantly," he was held to a lower standard than if he sinned "willfully, knowlingly."  God's principles are always true. There was more to the sin of these Scribes and Pharisees than merely stating that Jesus had a devil and cast out devils by the prince of devil. The truth is THEY KNEW BETTER.  They knew that they were lying in order to deceive the multitudes who were beginning to believe in and trust Jesus as a Man of God. They were SINNING AGAINST LIGHT.  They were sinning aginst WHAT THEY KNEW WAS THE TRUTH.  And how do we know this?  We are frankly TOLD this in the Scriptures.
 
In John 3 we have a "Ruler of the Jews" by the name of Nicodemus, and this is what we are told by him:  "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a RULER [this man KNEW what the Scribes and the Pharisees believed behind closed doors] of the Jews. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto Him, Rabbi, WE [Scribes, Pharisees, Rulers, Jews]  KNOW  that you are a Teacher COME FROM GOD; for no man can do these miracles [such as casting out demons] that You do, except GOD BE WITH HIM"  (John 3:1-2).
 
It is when we KNOW the truth and blaspheme AGAINST THE TRUE LIGHT THAT WE KNOW, that we then "blaspheme against the Holy Spirit" which is the means by which light and truth is imparted.

God be with you,

Ray
(http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2175.msg17491.html#msg17491)

eggi:
Hi again,

I guess we are left with two possible explanations. Either the scripture that was quoted from Acts 3:16 is not referring to the unbelieving Pharisees, but the Romans or some other rulers. Most likely the Pharisees.

There were Pharisees who believed, and there were Pharisees who didn't believe (Acts 15:5). It is a possibility that Nicodemus was speaking only on behalf of the believing party. In that way he could truly say that they knew Who Jesus was. The other party which didn't believe would stop at nothing to get rid of Jesus. And later, the Saducees wanted to prevent talk about a resurrection since they didn't believe in it.

God bless you,
Eirik

Gina:
Ah, it's no big.  Either way, they're forgiven! :-D

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