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Andrew:
I agree with Brandon on this.

To me, Acts 8 (when it talks about a man called Simon) makes a distinct difference in the "magic"(CLV)(the KLV says sorcery) he was performing and the miracles that Christ was doing through Phillip.

I hope this helps.

May the Lord Bless You and Keep You.

Falconn003:
magic tries to invoke the supernatural.

miracles are supernatural in origin or an act of God with no invoking.

FACT is, there is yet to be any man to invoke God to do anything or invoke the supernatural for that matter.

entertainment v.s. spirituality.........i will go with the spirit on this one.


A very strange twist to the straw men concept.


Rodger

shibboleth:
Magic is simply a trick. The magician uses gimmicks and ploys, that he sets up, to fool people into believing something impossible has happened.
A miracle uses no such gimmicks and ploys. When Jesus turned water into wine, He had nothing but himself to do it. When He healed a blind man, the little girl sick, the man at the well and the epileptic, it was spontaneous. These healed people were known in their communities, and their friends and neighbors could vouch for the truth of their healings.

The so-called faith healers today do no such thing. Everything is staged and controlled. The faith healers have actually convinced people who could walk to run around the stage pretending to be healed. Peter Popoff had a hearing aid in his ear that his wife would talk into from another area. She told him peoples illnesses. These people had filled out cards before the show stating their illnesses. Did you know that some faith healers require you to have a ticket to come to their show?
Sure doesn't sound like something Jesus would do.

Sorin:

--- Quote from: shibboleth ---Magic is simply a trick. The magician uses gimmicks and ploys, that he sets up, to fool people into believing something impossible has happened.
A miracle uses no such gimmicks and ploys. When Jesus turned water into wine, He had nothing but himself to do it. When He healed a blind man, the little girl sick, the man at the well and the epileptic, it was spontaneous. These healed people were known in their communities, and their friends and neighbors could vouch for the truth of their healings.

The so-called faith healers today do no such thing. Everything is staged and controlled. The faith healers have actually convinced people who could walk to run around the stage pretending to be healed. Peter Popoff had a hearing aid in his ear that his wife would talk into from another area. She told him peoples illnesses. These people had filled out cards before the show stating their illnesses. Did you know that some faith healers require you to have a ticket to come to their show?
Sure doesn't sound like something Jesus would do.
--- End quote ---




Christianity makes me sick!! did you know they are selling "miracle-water vials" now? yeah, just drink it ( after you pay $50.00 for it or something) and yeah, all your sickness and disease will heal.

'Tis sad but true.  


That's like the " psychic friends network ", they know everything except the winning lottery numbers. :lol:

shibboleth:
You forgot about the prayer cloths they give away free of charge. Of course, they send you letters begging for money and God will bless you if you send them a gift. All these free gifts always seem to have a price attached. Even the radio preachers beg for money. They say if you don't support us, we'll be off the air soon. It never seems as if any of them go off the air though. I wonder what would happen if they did what they want everyone else to do and tithe to another ministry, or just not beg for a few months. If they were really from God, they would just not tell anyone they need money, and let God get it to them. HA! Fat chance of that ever happening. The Christian religion is one of the biggest con games I have ever seen. Noone cons better than Christians.

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