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666???
cjwood:
just a thought, i believe that whenever God was emphasizing the great importance of certain matters in the Scriptures, He would declare it three times. maybe, the number 6 for mankind was being emphasized by God the Father by the combination of the three 6's. okay, maybe it is way off target, but, it was just a thought. and of course, as we have learned, all of revelations is symbolic and not literal.
claudia
newgene87:
--- Quote from: Gina on July 13, 2012, 01:01:42 AM ---I think where we're all going wrong is, we're looking at the 666 number and taking it literally. Remember how we looked at 144,000 literally? But it's not literally 144,000 thousand. And it can't be literally six hundred and sixty-six either. I can't believe that just occurred to me. Shame on me.
--- End quote ---
not implying that all scripture has "reason" but the 144,000 had reason. John did list each tribe of Israel, stating specifically 12,000 of each tribe. i missed that
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand:
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand:
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand:
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
but, of course it's spiritual, and it's a totality figure. but 666? naw, i dont take ANYTHING literal in Revelations. John said, " I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me ...". yet, again, why 666? what is spiritual about it?
now this can be wrapped in an enigma at the end of it all. it's fine with me. Jesus is still my Savior, my Lord, and my God :D :D. I'm just so hungry to see things i never saw before. :D
and thanks Cj. that is food for thought. God did call Samuel 3 times -1Sam 3:8 -....but he called Moses name 2 times (Exo 3:4); and Jesus seemed to love, "Verily, Verily...". ah 2, 3, tomato, tomahto; i get the picture. i'm going to get this enigma one day. but it wont be an idol tho. I'm just fascinated with Scripture and how it eventually lines up :D :D
Eugene
noeleena:
Hi,
So if we leave out the numbers & looking at what was going on around that time before & after who were the people it concerned was it the ( r'o'mische ) roman,
There is a name it refered to some thing in detail concerning the romans, roman letters ,
change the numbers to letters in = like as for english 1 = a , 2 =b it was done in such a way to fool the romans,
its over 25 years since i went through it ,i got sick of hearing the same claptrap so i just left it alone walked away, so my info went as well.
When i saw you's talking about it, i though okay. & the people who used to stir up others with in some groups i knew , allways said what was writen in the letters ( bible ), its just translated all wrong allthough it got the people in to fear mode. thats what these so called pastors did, so if you dig some more up will see what you come up with. see if its close to what i have, there was one name given just could be spelt slightly different , i cant think of the names, i bury things away ,in my mind so takes a while to find them.
...noeleena...
indianabob:
Hi Eugene,
Did you notice that the tribe of Dan was not mentioned among the twelve tribes of Israel?
I wonder why?
Indianabob
- - - -
Gen 30:1 And when Rachel saw that she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister; and said unto Jacob, Give me children, or else I die.
Gen 30:2 And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, Am I in God's stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?
Gen 30:3 And she said, Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her; and she shall bear upon my knees, that I may also have children by her.
Gen 30:4 And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her.
Gen 30:5 And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a son.
Gen 30:6 And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore called she his name Dan.
= = = =
--- Quote from: newgene87 on July 13, 2012, 01:15:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gina on July 13, 2012, 01:01:42 AM ---I think where we're all going wrong is, we're looking at the 666 number and taking it literally. Remember how we looked at 144,000 literally? But it's not literally 144,000 thousand. And it can't be literally six hundred and sixty-six either. I can't believe that just occurred to me. Shame on me.
--- End quote ---
not implying that all scripture has "reason" but the 144,000 had reason. John did list each tribe of Israel, stating specifically 12,000 of each tribe. i missed that
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand:
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand:
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand:
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
Eugene
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the truth:
Hello newgene
Sorry newgene if I didnt explain more clearly in my post.Just a fine line in teaching and answering a question here on the forum.I think Doug expressed the just of what I am saying though.The number 666 completes the order in which the state or condition the un-converted man rest.....in carnality.
example: Heb 4:12 For, living, is the word of God, and, energetic, and more cutting than any knife with two edges, and penetrating as far as a dividing asunder of soul and spirit, of joints also, and marrow, and able to judge the impulses and designs of the hear
1Th 5:23 But, the God of peace himself, hallow you completely, and, entire, might your spirit, and soul, and body,— so as to be unblameable in the Presence of our Lord Jesus Christ,—be perserved.
Heb-4-12-the un-converted man spirit is ruled BY his soul.
I believe Ray has something in his writings in regards to how I got the "what each 6 stood for not sure.
1-Thess 5-23 man his spirit rules his soul
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