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666???
Gina:
Claudia's on to something.
You figure - there were 7 lampstands (ref. Rev.) and 7 "signifies" all churches [albeit not "complete" churches because they're lacking]. And God repeats that number 7 again and again, but it's all speaking to the same thing: the churches
So,just like Claudia said, when God repeats something, He's trying to drive home a point. So to me, 666 stands for mankind without the Holy Spirit of God -- which is at its very core nothing more than a carnal-minded BEAST.
newgene87:
--- Quote from: indianabob on July 13, 2012, 06:14:50 AM ---Hi Eugene,
Did you notice that the tribe of Dan was not mentioned among the twelve tribes of Israel?
I wonder why?
Indianabob
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Gen 30:1 And when Rachel saw that she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister; and said unto Jacob, Give me children, or else I die.
Gen 30:2 And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, Am I in God's stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?
Gen 30:3 And she said, Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her; and she shall bear upon my knees, that I may also have children by her.
Gen 30:4 And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her.
Gen 30:5 And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a son.
Gen 30:6 And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore called she his name Dan.
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--- Quote from: newgene87 on July 13, 2012, 01:15:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gina on July 13, 2012, 01:01:42 AM ---I think where we're all going wrong is, we're looking at the 666 number and taking it literally. Remember how we looked at 144,000 literally? But it's not literally 144,000 thousand. And it can't be literally six hundred and sixty-six either. I can't believe that just occurred to me. Shame on me.
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not implying that all scripture has "reason" but the 144,000 had reason. John did list each tribe of Israel, stating specifically 12,000 of each tribe. i missed that
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand:
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand:
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand:
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
Eugene
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Whats even more interesting is that the tribe of LEVI is placed there and they were to have NO inheritance whatsoever. they only had the priesthood. It's expressed in Judges 18, Dan is singled out falling into idolatry, so maybe that's why Levi is all of sudden listed here and Dan wasnt. i did notice there were still 12 listed. and Mannaseh is listed, the SON of Joseph, and Ephraim isnt... idolatry befalls both Ephraim and Dan (hosea 4:17 and Judges 17-18) and in that same Judges18 text, that Micah, with the graven images is an Ephraimite.....what's even more interesting, Dan uses 600 armed men to take that land (which they did in sin) Judges 18:11. AND the takes the Levite Priest from Micah...... hmmm...hmmm all interesting. 600, dan, levite, ephraimite.....
and Gina and Truth; i think you both are putting the pieces together
thanks for the replies! ;D
thanks for all the replies
eagle:
--- Quote ---the question is still; how does these numbers, count to be the number of the beast??
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The word that is translated count is the greek word psephizo, which only occurs two time in the new testament. The other place is in:
Luke 14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]?
Psephizo is also translated reckon, so the spiritual meaning,the way I see it, of Rev 13:8 is let him who has understanding (the mind, comprising alike the faculties of perceiving and understanding and those of feeling, judging, determining) reckon/ take into account the number of the beast
Like David we have to face Goliath!!
Gina:
That makes sense, Eagle. to me it's like God's saying: Consider that I made mankind on the "sixth day" of creation, and creation was not yet complete as God had not rested from His works and man, without Rest (Christ) is not complete -- hence, the beast.
newgene87:
--- Quote from: eagle on July 13, 2012, 10:28:17 AM ---
--- Quote ---the question is still; how does these numbers, count to be the number of the beast??
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The word that is translated count is the greek word psephizo, which only occurs two time in the new testament. The other place is in:
Luke 14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]?
Psephizo is also translated reckon, so the spiritual meaning,the way I see it, of Rev 13:8 is let him who has understanding (the mind, comprising alike the faculties of perceiving and understanding and those of feeling, judging, determining) reckon/ take into account the number of the beast
Like David we have to face Goliath!!
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wowsers....that does make sense. that just blew me away. see, i'm raising a 3 year old; and teaching him to "count", i'm thinking "1.....2......3...*no not 8*....4...5" and so on ;D. so yeaaaaa i get. thanks Eagle. i can see the spiritual significance in that. God is saying take to account and reckon the number of the beast. and as truth revealed, God saying it is YOU YOU YOU without ME ME ME.
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