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666???
tinknocker:
Ray pointed out that man is the beast. The reference in Rev. is describing the beast in 3 parts.
1) what we were before the fall.
2) What we are now.
3) what we will become.
The full cycle of the beast= mankind
tinknocker
bpenelli:
From: http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html
Let me give you the history of the world including all future prophecies, in one sentence:
God perfectly planned and recorded His creation of the heavens, angels, the earth, and carnal humanity, who sinned wickedly and were all drowned (save a few); who then reached for their own heaven at the tower of Babel in rebellion to the God Who then scattered them (save a few); who later built Babylon into a great pagan empire which God destroyed (save a few); who have since built many wicked and fornicating Babylons collectively called, Mystery Babylon The Great, whom God warns before utterly destroying again (save a few); and of ‘the Few’ God is creating a New Spiritual Humanity of Son-and-Daughter Saviours like unto Jesus, in New Jerusalem on spiritual Mt. Zion, were ALL will be redeemed (NOT just a few); that God may be "ALL in All"!
Maybe I could shorten it down a smidgen, but there it is. The reality of most of the symbolism of Revelation is contained in that one sentence. "But Mr. Smith, I don’t see ‘666’ anywhere in your sentence." You don’t? I do. I see 666 followed by 777 in nearly every phrase of that sentence. "He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the Churches!"
From: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6452.0.html
Mark 4:11 …Unto YOU it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
Well wait a minute we have just learned something all over there again. What are the parables about? The called and the chosen, the many and the few.
Marky Mark:
--- Quote ---Isn't Wisdom for us who can see what the symbol 666 means but is it not put upon the unbeliever whose eyes and ears haven't been opened?
--- End quote ---
Hi Doug.
Yes, I would say that you are correct.The Lord certainly chooses whom He wants for His own,many are called but few are chosen,down through the ages,the calling out of His elect. Wisdom is for those whom He draws unto Himself. Without Gods grace teaching us we would not be aware of anything of the Spirit. But we must remember that Jesus is the Savior of all people,not just a few,eventually all eyes and ears will be opened,now in judgement,or later,in the LOF. Judgement will certainly make pure all people of all time, in His time,not ours.
I myself feel blessed that my Lord has caused me to understand some things of the Spirit. In times past,just as others here,I did not have a clue about His Word [but I thought I was a believer] and was chest deep in the babylonian system of things,thinking all along that I had a handle on Spiritual matters, but in reality, I was yet a babe in Christ. I feel it safe to say that all of us here have been through some of the same. Until He comes and lives within our hearts and minds, we are yet carnal, and dead to Him.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
We must all go through all things,according to the Scriptures,even as others. Because all things come alike to all...
1Co 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
1Co 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Ecc 9:1 For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God: no man knoweth either love or hatred by all that is before them.
Ecc 9:2 All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.
When we come to understand our journey in our walk with the Lord,its easy to see,and hear,that nothing is of ourselves,but rather,it is His gift from God.So yes,there are unbelievers whose eyes and ears haven't been opened,but for now,our time is at hand,for the children of Faith.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Hope this helps.
Peace...Mark
doug:
Thanks Family....
I Got It !!! ;) I Just Wanted To See If We Were All In Agreement ! And We Are! :)
(it's had to interpret others meanings sometimes without some additional corroboration)
Blessings All,
doug
newgene87:
yea...you all are AMAZING :D. im blown away by the wisdom displayed here from these complex numbers. but i got. thank you all. Regardless, Humility and Love are my focus now.
thank you all
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