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santgem:
THE NUMBER 666

"Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the NUMBER OF THE BEAST: for it is the NUMBER OF A MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six [666]" (Rev. 13:18).

Is this indeed what the Greek manuscripts of Rev. 13:18 state? No, it is not.

The Greek word used when only man is meant (always excluding woman), is aner. But the Greek word translated "man" in Rev. 13:18 is not aner, but rather the word anthropos, which means "a human being, male or female." Strong’s Concordant.

Furthermore, it is not the number of "a" anything. It is just the number of human or of mankind! Even the Revised Standard Version translators saw this and therefore, states, "It’s number is six hundred sixty-six." The number of the wild beast is not the number of "a" man, but rather the number of "man" or "mankind."


Brothers and sisters, when  reading the papers of Mr. Ray and try to look the It's in the Revised Standard Version, nowhere i can find it.
Can you please enlighten me this word and what is the significance of this word. What version of the Bible can we see the word IT's?

Dave in Tenn:
I don't have access to the RSV.

To note:  The RSV is a revised version of the King James, so that is most probably why Ray mentioned it.)

These translations also render it "its":

The ISV (which is a  revision of the King James, if I'm not mistaken), the LITV, the YLT, and the CLV.



(corrected to make up for being half-asleep earlier).   

santgem:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on March 14, 2013, 08:31:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: santgem on March 14, 2013, 02:59:03 AM ---THE NUMBER 666

"Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the NUMBER OF THE BEAST: for it is the NUMBER OF A MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six [666]" (Rev. 13:18).

Is this indeed what the Greek manuscripts of Rev. 13:18 state? No, it is not.

The Greek word used when only man is meant (always excluding woman), is aner. But the Greek word translated "man" in Rev. 13:18 is not aner, but rather the word anthropos, which means "a human being, male or female." Strong’s Concordant.

Furthermore, it is not the number of "a" anything. It is just the number of human or of mankind! Even the Revised Standard Version translators saw this and therefore, states, "It’s number is six hundred sixty-six." The number of the wild beast is not the number of "a" man, but rather the number of "man" or "mankind."


Brothers and sisters, when  reading the papers of Mr. Ray and try to look the It's in the Revised Standard Version, nowhere i can find it.
Can you please enlighten me this word and what is the significance of this word. What version of the Bible can we see the word IT's?

--- End quote ---

There are many online versions of the various bible translations.  One I use is The Blue Letter Bible at blueletterbible.org.

Enter Rev 13:18.  Then click the Letter "V" on the verse, which will give you several bible translations of the verse.

The RSV version of Rev 13:18 says, "...its number is six hundred and sixty-six."

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I have already visited the site but nowhere i find the apostrophe in its. In English language(which of course i am not expert as obvious) Ray mentioned IT's with an apostrophe.
IT's means It has, and its means possessive form of it and varies in meaning.

Craig:
The revised standard uses the word "its" without the apostrophe.  Perhaps the apostrophe is a typo by Ray.  We can't ask him but that is what I assume.

Craig

arion:
Remember also that the Greek language has no punctuation in it.  Whenever punctuation is used it's always the work of the translators.

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