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The Law is Spiritual??
Gina:
John, Paul thought that he knew God BETTER and that he was BETTER than the Christians. That's a haughty spirit. And he was "lording" it over them. It was all vanity on his part. He understood later that he was doing it all in ignorance, but it stemmed from pride.
Gina:
And it wasn't Paul who was destroyed; it was Saul, the Pharisee, who was destroyed.
onelovedread:
Ok, so you're saying that pride can be "committed" in ignorance. I never thought of it like that before. I always thought that pride (haughtiness, being puffed up) was something we consciously practiced (not in the sense of like being proud of your daughter).
If you put it like that, I can accept it in that sense.
But I was thinking of a haughty stuck up atttiude that Saul would have actually assumed.
On your last comment, I wish John the creature before being called by God, were totally destroyed.
I wonder what my new name would be. I figure if Saul became Paul (4 alphabetical letters back) then John would become 'Gohn.' :D
Dave in Tenn:
Yes, the Law is Spiritual. Paul said we KNOW that the law is Spiritual. Problem is, not everyone knows what 'Spiritual' is. In the quotes above, Ray explains to a great extent what makes the Law spiritual. Understanding that goes a long way towards understanding what 'spiritual' itself is.
the truth:
Dave
YES, Of course the law is Spiritual.And as well all of the Holy Scriptures....MY quote:.............. "So its not the the Law that is Spiritual"Was A complete blunder...trying to get my point across and got excited.Sorry about that.I am surprised someone didn't call me on that quote earlier...lol...
As you shared Dave The Material listed above is a great explanation of the the law.This part is what really I was trying to voice in my post.From Ray......
To most, the New Covenant consists of keeping the Old Covenant, better. They say that they now keep the Old Covenant "in the spirit." Just how, pray tell, does one keep the "physical" in the "spirit?"
Such a doctrine is utter unscriptural contradictory nonsense. You cannot keep the "physical" in the "spirit." THERE IS NO SPIRIT IN THE PHYSICAL, SO HOW COULD ONE ‘KEEP IT’ IF IT DOESN’T EXIST? We are all born with a physical [carnal] mind. It is possible to keep physical [carnal] laws with a physical carnal mind (Paul did it to near perfection when he was Saul!). But one CANNOT keep God’s spiritual laws with a physical carnal mind!
"Because the carnal [natural physical] mind is enmity [deep seated HATRED] AGAINST God; for it is NOT subject to the [spiritual] law of God, neither indeed can be" (Rom. 8:7).
"For to be carnally minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace" (Rom. 8:6]
Thanks Dave for bringing my attention to my quote...sorry about that .Guess that's one of the reasons your a moderator huh?God Bless!
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