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Who will we be?
bpenelli:
Galatians 3
Common English Bible (CEB)
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a custodian.
26 You are all God’s children through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 All of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek; there is neither slave nor free; nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
1 Corinthians 12
12 Christ is just like the human body—a body is a unit and has many parts; and all the parts of the body are one body, even though there are many. 13 We were all baptized by one Spirit into one body, whether Jew or Greek, or slave or free, and we all were given one Spirit to drink.
Colossians 3
9 Don’t lie to each other. Take off the old human nature with its practices 10 and put on the new nature, which is renewed in knowledge by conforming to the image of the one who created it. 11 In this image there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all things and in all people.
Ireland:
Interesting thread! We all know we are not to add to the word, but we all think about these things from time to time I am pretty certain. We do not know for sure exactly how we will be, but I know Jesus did eat in His perfected spiritual body. I know that the Sons of God in Genesis did marry with daughters of men and create giants. Now, if these Sons of God that were near the throne of God and counseled with Him could have sex, then we do not know for sure that one day we will not have sinless intimate relationships. I did not say we would, but we do not know for sure. If it is there, then God purposed it and does not matter what we think.
We have to remember there are ages ahead of reconciling all living things to God, but then after that we will have many years ahead of us lol. Come on guys, I know there will not be years, but just saying. We cannot even fathom the great things God will allow us to do and even think. Please, let's not be self righteous and think that we will sit around all day and just sing. Come on, God is awesome and amazing. I feel certain there will be endless adventures and exciting times ahead after He has become all in all. I for one will be ready for all He has for us! It will be perfect and there will be no more sin, so do not worry about that :).
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Ireland on July 31, 2012, 08:31:17 PM ---I know that the Sons of God in Genesis did marry with daughters of men and create giants. Now, if these Sons of God that were near the throne of God and counseled with Him could have sex, then we do not know for sure that one day we will not have sinless intimate relationships. I did not say we would, but we do not know for sure. If it is there, then God purposed it and does not matter what we think.
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Ireland, this is a myth...it's not true.
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim [These were a human beings but of a different culture] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. [NASV]
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. [NIV]
Kat:
Hi Ireland,
I hope these discussions are not a question of our own self righteousness and do not believe that is directing our answers. I do not casually study the Scripture, I look for all the Scripture I can find on a subject and then also study the context that the person is speaking from. But there are also commentaries that can lend knowledge of the customs of the times and other facts that help. Now with all this to help, which most everybody has to use, the determining factor in gaining spiritual understanding is the Holy Spirit indwelling and I believe God does/is leading His Elect to greater understanding.
So regarding the "sons of god," we have established many times on this forum and Ray also clearly showed that these were just men, but were called such because they knew and obeyed the true God.
I truly believe it is a carnal desire to hang onto the hope that we will still participant in the physical things we enjoy in this life, such as sex, after resurrection into spiritual beings. That is a lot like what the religions of the world teaches, that in the next life we will have and enjoy our greatest physical pleasures. It certainly is hard to grasp that there truly is an existence far superior to what we know as this physical life and once we enter it all that is physical will have no temptation whatsoever. May we all strive to look beyond the here and now to something that can not even be compared to what we have in this life.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard," nor has it entered into the heart of man, "the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
v. 10 But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Gina:
--- Quote ---I truly believe it is a carnal desire to hang onto the hope that we will still participant in the physical things we enjoy in this life, such as sex, after resurrection into spiritual beings. That is a lot like what the religions of the world teaches, that in the next life we will have and enjoy our greatest physical pleasures. It certainly is hard to grasp that there truly is an existence far superior to what we know as this physical life and once we enter it all that is physical will have no temptation whatsoever. May we all strive to look beyond the here and now to something that can not even be compared to what we have in this life.
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I agree. All I know is that Jesus Christ never had sex because He didn't have a wife, and Paul the apostle went without a wife, too, at least that's what I understand him to mean when he said he wished the unmarried and widows could be like him: 1 Corinthians 7:8 (NASB95) But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.
When Paul was caught up in the third paradise, he came back a changed man to the point that he was more than willing to go without a wife (sex) and without riches, he took beatings and was scorned and imprisoned. There was something he saw that he wasn't permitted to speak about. It was something that couldn't hold a candle to the earthly marriage bed -- that's what I gather:
1 Cor. 7
Principles for Marriage
1 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
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6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.
7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.
8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am.
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The Unmarried and the Widowed
25 Now concerning the betrothed, I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.
26 I think that in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is.
27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife.
28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that.
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31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.
32 I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord.
33 But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife,
34 and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband.
35 I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon yo, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.
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38 So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.
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40 Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.
I have nothing against marriage, but I've seen too many marriages fail in my personal lifetime. I'll never be convinced sex is the be all and end all. I am convinced that Paul saw something in that third paradise and I don't know what it was but it's clear that he had no problem going without to attain to it. And that's saying A LOT because Paul was a man. :)
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