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Who will we be?
John from Kentucky:
Will we be sexual beings in the Kingdom of God?
I do not know. Why don't I know? Because God has not shown me two or three scriptures that clearly answer the question presented.
Are you a scriptural scholar? Do you know the answer to the above question?
If you are, please present the two scriptures to back up your answer.
Please understand, do not give me one scripture. The scriptures teach us, multiple times, that there must be at least two witnesses to establish the truth of a matter.
Also, please do not present your editorial statements or comments. They are not scripture. With two scriptures, the Spirit of God will give understanding of a spiritual truth.
;D Now, to quote Ray, I will hold my breath until I see the two scriptures................................
Kat:
Hi John,
We know the Scripture where Jesus answered how a person will become after the resurrection "in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven." Well Matthew, Mark and Luke bare witness to this, that is 3 witnesses.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
v. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven.
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but they are as the angels in Heaven.
Luke 20:35 but they who shall be counted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
John from Kentucky:
Hi Kat,
;D No cigar. I'm still holding my breathe.
I agree with those scriptures you quoted. They prove that there will not be marriage among resurrected spiritual beings.
But those scriptures say nothing about sex. Marriage is a noun. Sex is a noun. But they don't mean the same thing. We have to pay close attention to all the words.
I know you are aware of Ray's article on marriage. He brought out that the scriptural definition of marriage concerned that it was a covenant relationship, that it concerned the ceremony of marriage, and also especially a wedding feast. Love or sex was not a requisite element of a scriptural marriage.
John
Kat:
John, no there will not be marriage or sexual activity among the elect, because they will be married to Christ!
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice and we will give glory to Him. For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has prepared herself.
The Elect are married to Christ at the resurrection, all of our devotion will be to God from then on. If any were in a physical marriage, that is dissolved at death and so at resurrection they belong to God and any sexual activity with another person would be fornication. So there's no place for physical sexuality, which would be fornication, for those in the kingdom are the bride/married to Christ. Of course there is much said in the Scripture about how fornication (both spiritual and physical) is wrong.
1Co 6:13 "Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food"--and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality (fornication), but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
the truth:
Hello,
Kat with all do respect to your comment:I going to use it only to get my thought across.I am thankful that I am sure you wont be offended by it or that I am trying to attack you.Because I totally respect yours and everyone elses opinon here on the forum.
So regarding the "sons of god," we have established many times on this forum and Ray also clearly showed that these were just men, but were called such because they knew and obeyed the true God.
I hope this is not like Joe Paterno statue were this is the standard so that settles it.I have plenty of Scriptures that makes ... Me.. believe who the Sons of God are.
I am not saying this is your way of thinking or this is what you meant.Just MY own thought.I can throw this scriptures out there.
Job 38:7 When the morningH1242 starsH3556 sangH7442 together,H3162 and allH3605 the sonsH1121 of GodH430 shouted for joy? Was this the "Sons OF SETH"?
Gen 6:2 That the sonsH1121 of GodH430 sawH7200 (H853) the daughtersH1323 of menH120 thatH3588 theyH2007 were fair;H2896 and they tookH3947 them wivesH802 of allH4480 H3605 whichH834 they chose.H977..Is this the "Sons of Seth'?
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhîym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) grea
So ,I just want to say..That there is a lot of Scripture that I can give to make a "case" if you will.But here is the facts:
1. Cant teach on Forum.
2. Many people seem to have already established what they believe and thats the way they do things.
3. Why try to give a "case" when you have know the cards are stacked?
a.If you try thats teaching your out.
b.If you challenge your either need to read Rays teaching again or its a "myth".
c.Or the very worst one...You can see clearly of a matter which is only a opinon because even though you give Scripture you some how didnt see it the right way?
So,Just to make the record straight I am so thankful for what" "God"... did through His vessel Ray Smith.And some may say well if you dont like it truth than why are you here?
Which is a logical question.In which I would say .....were Am I to go?To the church on every corner? :'(
So thanks for listening to me ramble God Bless.
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