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A question for the older men here
cjwood:
it helped me samson (and john). thank you for posting these scriptures.
claudia
jingle52:
Yes, thanks for these wonderful Scriptures Sampson, it helped me a lot too. I tend to reply to provocation and disrespect in a most irritable and angry way. I've been struggling with this for a while now, but God is merciful and I am changing..... at His pace 8) but changing I am!!!
God Bless
Jingle
ez2u:
well I am going to step in here with another point because i guess i think differently. First off sex is a great thing in marriage. Now if its between sex and masturbation well hands down sex but ... why is masturbation a sin? where does it talk about it in the Bible? your married you enjoy your spouse, right so you masturbate? problem? your single you don't have a partner you masturbate so? you don't go out and get some. sounds better to me. Why do we put such damnable laws on natural things of life. Isn't masturbation helpful not to get into a situation with another person before marriage? It just seems wrong to me to restrict yourself to such a degree as this. but I am not talking about porn that is just sexual abuse as is prostitution. addiction to anything is the real problem not masturbation. addiction is another problem
Patric:
Personally for me....what was going on inside my mind while I masturbated.....or the ways I did it....and or toys used....or pictures....and videos were a deeper problem of the heart. Which of the commandments can no one be convicted of? Think about this for a bit. The 10th commandment: You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's. This is to say......who can know what you are thinking about? It is in the heart....the mind of a human that we do not convict crimes, or do we? Pre meditated murder is a higher offense than cold blooded murder-in the heat of the moment. Because you took time to plan it out. Just my 2 cents. While Masturbation is not strictly a law. There is thought and action behind it. Most say.....I am not hurting anyone else or involving anyone else, so why is it wrong? The thoughts that are in my head are worthy of conviction. I have such twisted fantasies that inspire me to get an erection and or act out on them to the point of ejaculation. I am not proud of them. I think I have never reached orgasm with no thoughts or other inspired actions, as said before. Pictures, videos, toys, thoughts, or other stimulation. Sex if consensual does not break any laws provided the circumstances. In one country you must be 21 and Married, others 13 is lawful. In the middle east in certain areas one can be as young 3 to be be throed and can be 9 when sexual relations are permitted. Most of us will say these are sick. Jesus expressly said that you could not have sex with a married woman. What about a Woman lusting for a man? or a a married man? those subjects were not covered either. The fact is a man could have many wives....and any woman he slept with, was considered his wife.....as per the covenant with God. When a woman is a virgin she bleeds upon her first time, thus covering her and the man with blood. Think this is more of what our Father ensued for marriage than just legal papers and a ceremony. Yet if a woman was married, you could not take her as your wife, and Christ said do not even lust and or look at her that way! This agrees with the 10th Commandment thy shall not covet. How do you know what is a person's thoughts if they do not act them out of confess them? What gives me peace above all this is the fact that we are being made into his image. A Spiritual man and the brother and sister of Christ! We would not know what evil was without good. My words are many here. Still I can not say with any clarity that Masturbation is a sin. But anything not done in faith is sin. So it is possible. And with the wrong thoughts and or circumstances too. The enemy and mankind are able to corrupt wholesome things that are created by the pure Father. Of the 600+ rules and regulations in the book of Leviticus, yes there are more than 10 commandments! LOL I am sure we can find a way to convict any human if we dig into ones closet and search for skeletons and sin! just more of my 2 cents.
ez2u:
Read St. Augustine books and you will know how these philosophy was develop in the Christian Church. Christian power play
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