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A question for the older men here
Ian 155:
The fact that you admit to fornicating on a open forum is possibly the start of your deliverance - the loathing comes to all of us whatever the lust -
and this is from God
Ian
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on November 08, 2012, 11:42:31 AM ---The fact that you admit to fornicating on a open forum is possibly the start of your deliverance - the loathing comes to all of us whatever the lust -
and this is from God
Ian
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Thank you Ian,
I agree that seeing the beast for who and what he is comes from God. I admitted long ago to this sin but I am still plagued by it to this day. Perhaps I shall suffer like the vast majority of men well into my old age before this beast is relinquished.
Samson,
I know I thanked you over facebook for your post and your friends but I Just wanted to formally say it here again. A beautiful post indeed.
Love,
Alex
Ian 155:
Alex ,Brother Now is the time ,now is the day.. I don't want to rehash some of the advice Lets wait and see etc is not what the word tells us.... this is a major hindrance this is lust of the flesh which by biblical definition is carnal and is not subject to the spirit nor can it be, it is hostile to God, so I would re evaluate and quickly get into line
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. emphasis mine
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God -
Let me quickly say I have had tremendous financial trials of late and I found a word - seek 1st his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things,house car etc will be added, I thought this is a joke initially anyway, i started earnestly seeking, all is of God he causes me to understand his word so I start seeking [seeking is not finding btw] Financially nothing is happening but I do detect a changing Ian and I believe as the foundation of this Temple is strengthened by doing things Gods way this foundation will be able to hold up much of the new rooms which God will add but if the foundation is weak the extensions are not possible as the inspector will not allow further building until the elementry sins are dealt with.
Listen this may sound crude but " can you imagine our God involved in fornication"....that alone, that statement will shake that sin upsidedown my friend .... and so it is with all carnality thinking - Imagine ...
He is building his temple in you, I agree God does not need assistance especially carnal based assistance but he also does not bring to the point of delivery and not give birth, obey his instruction, you can, it is written obedience is better than sacrifice so we must be well placed to obey otherwise our conscience must be seared -
I heard Ray once speaking on stealing he simply said DONT DO IT ...
Ian
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on November 13, 2012, 04:17:31 AM ---Alex ,Brother Now is the time ,now is the day.. I don't want to rehash some of the advice Lets wait and see etc is not what the word tells us.... this is a major hindrance this is lust of the flesh which by biblical definition is carnal and is not subject to the spirit nor can it be, it is hostile to God, so I would re evaluate and quickly get into line
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. emphasis mine
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God -
Let me quickly say I have had tremendous financial trials of late and I found a word - seek 1st his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things,house car etc will be added, I thought this is a joke initially anyway, i started earnestly seeking, all is of God he causes me to understand his word so I start seeking [seeking is not finding btw] Financially nothing is happening but I do detect a changing Ian and I believe as the foundation of this Temple is strengthened by doing things Gods way this foundation will be able to hold up much of the new rooms which God will add but if the foundation is weak the extensions are not possible as the inspector will not allow further building until the elementry sins are dealt with.
Listen this may sound crude but " can you imagine our God involved in fornication"....that alone, that statement will shake that sin upsidedown my friend .... and so it is with all carnality thinking - Imagine ...
He is building his temple in you, I agree God does not need assistance especially carnal based assistance but he also does not bring to the point of delivery and not give birth, obey his instruction, you can, it is written obedience is better than sacrifice so we must be well placed to obey otherwise our conscience must be seared -
I heard Ray once speaking on stealing he simply said DONT DO IT ...
Ian
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Dear Ian,
I agree that we mustn't be lazy, but we must also understand that it takes spiritual strength to overcome such an adversary as the beast, a strength not found within men.
Revelation 13:7 "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations."
This saint makes war but he is overcome each and every time. There is no good in me and no power in me that has proven itself to be sufficient against such an adversary.
Weakness is all that abounds here but it is in weakness that the Lord shines forth with all power and majesty.
Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
I pray every single day the Lord deliver me from bondage, from the vanity I have been subject to. I struggle everyday to seek the kingdom with my whole heart but alas I am carnal and sold under sin.
In the Lord's time, if it be His plan for me in this life to overcome this sin than I shall but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if I am ever given refuge from this beast that plagues me that it shall have been by His power and His spirit and none of my own. For what have you, that you did not recieve? Nothing Lord... nothing. I am as all men, most wretched, desperate, naked before thee as all men. Cloth me with thy garments Lord, for mine are nothing but filthy rags.
I could care less for a house, a car, or anything of wordly value including riches and fame. The most I want out of my career is a place where the love of the Lord and His light may shine unto all men, that I may grow in Him, ever increasing in Him and that I may provide for a wife and family some day making enough money that if my wife would rather not work that she feel not pressured into work due to financial struggles. Oh and maybe just enough to take a vacation every now and then but other than that, It is all vanity to me.
Sorry to hear though about your financial struggles.
Indeed, obedience is key but it too, as all good things comes from the Father above.
God bless,
Alex
P.S.I wouldn't consider sexual urges, masturbation and adultry in your heart (as Jesus would have labeled it) an "elementary sin" though I suppose I don't know what I would consider as elementary. Regardless, this is perhaps one of the greatest sins in a man's life (and probably many women) to overcome so I don't really like the term "elementary." Is that even biblical? Is one sin worse than the other? That's probably for another topic.
zander:
Alex - a question and i may have missed this as i haven't read this whole thread. Do you want to stay celibate for the rest of your life? Do you believe that is your calling?
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