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prarrydog:
Lam 3:31 For men are not cast off
by the Lord forever.
Lam 3:37 Who can speak and have it happen
if the Lord has not decreed it?
Lam 3:38 Is it not from the mouth of the Most High
that both calamities and good things come?
Lam 3:39 Why should any living man complain
when punished for his sins?
Lam 3:57 You came near when I called you,
and you said, "Do not fear."
I was just reading this today and it seems to fit in this thread
orion77:
--- Quote from: Layla on July 29, 2006, 12:11:40 AM ---
--- Quote ---It is a good thing our future is not based upon things we say, do, or think.
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Hi Gary
Why do you think our future is not based upon things we say, do or think?
Peace,
Layla
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Hello Layla,
If my future was based upon things I say, do or think, then my future would be based upon my own righteousness. My future is based upon what He has said, done, is doing, and will do, and think.
Truthfully, now that God is working is each of us, we now are a new creation, and it is no longer us who lives, but Him who is in us. If the end result of our future was up to us, we all would be in a heap of trouble.
Also, the differences of what I say, do, or think now are totally different than before. Now, I put forth more effort to say, do and think of better things, yet it was caused from what God is doing. We can take no credit. It is all about Him.
God bless,
Gary
prarrydog:
Amen Gary
Sorin:
--- Quote from: zander on July 26, 2006, 10:25:53 AM ---Hi folks
I felt i should let you know, in case anyone was wondering (yeah gosh i think i must be v.popular ;D ), that i am merely an observer on this site from time to time now and dont come here as often or place as much input. I am having some trouble at the moment regarding relationship with God etc. I understand it all, but feel very let down by him.
Well i wish you all welll
Z
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Hi Zander,
I can relate to what you are going through, believe me I do. And I too feel let down by God, and just feel like since everything was predestinated by Him, then this was just the life He chose for me. And sometimes that's a really hard pill to swallow. And it makes it really hard to want to worship such a God.
I hope things work out for you Z.
Take care,
Sorin
Layla:
Hi Gary
Thanks for the response.
--- Quote ---If my future was based upon things I say, do or think, then my future would be based upon my own righteousness. My future is based upon what He has said, done, is doing, and will do, and think. Truthfully, now that God is working is each of us, we now are a new creation, and it is no longer us who lives, but Him who is in us. If the end result of our future was up to us, we all would be in a heap of trouble.
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Phl 2:12-13
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
I see a joint cooperation in attaining to overcoming. Certainly the righteousness we attain to is not ours but that of Jesus Christ and even more certain it is God doing the work, however, I don't see these truths as nullifying our words or actions. In other words,
Gal 6:7-8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
I think what we do, say or think has much to do with the "increase" given by God. The increase is the work of God and the changes that are wrought in us, but the submission must be done on our part. We must crucify our flesh in order that the Spirit can freely flow through us. Thus, I see "action" on our part. Thus, I see the things we do and say can and does affect our future.
I think the idea that God is doing everything can lead a believer to become dismayed. They wonder why changes are not forthcoming and fail to turn and look at themselves and instead blame God or lose faith.
I'm not trying to argue with you or pick on your statement. If you see some fault in what I am seeing here, please share it with me.
Peace,
Layla
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