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So I want to go back to Babylon now! Why?
GaryK:
--- Quote ---"but then I realise anything would be better than feeling the constant despair and depression that I feel at the moment."
"Can’t handle this despair I feel at the moment."
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That's twice you said it.
Sounds like a good case of "at the moment".
Also sounds like you need to give this thing another think-through before you go doing something you'll regret. But guaranteed, whatever you do, it's a planned event. So don't sweat it too much.
Nonetheless. You want fellowship?...fellowship with the forum like you've been doing or with your dog. Guaranteed he'll have more compassion with your brief bout of despair than a group of folks who believe in the fiery pits of hell. I don't care how much hand-waving and fellowshipping you think you're going to get comfortable with it still has a bottom line and that doesn't change no matter what branch of church.
No offence to ya.
Rhys 🕊:
No offence taken. Thanks for your words.
Like Extol said I miss the social times. I do feel now it's not worth going back. I do feel it would make the despair I feel only worse. I know I don't want to leave the forum so if I went back to church I would imagine there would be a conflict between the two. I would then decide that one has to go and that would be church so whats the point trying to get some temporary relief.
I feel more benefit in suffering through what I am at the moment. I know God is there and He won't leave me. I'm just dealing with this situation now as did not feel like this in the last few years.
Not sure where the dog comes in. I have no dog and don't want one unless it's a toy one. ;D
Rhys
GaryK:
--- Quote from: Rhys on February 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM ---No offence taken. Thanks for your words.
Not sure where the dog comes in. I have no dog and don't want one unless it's a toy one. ;D
Rhys
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Well see?........right there's your problem, you don't have a dog. 8)
Consider: you may just, deeply, want to go show off your 'new wisdom' to the heathens. ;) Just a thought. Everybody feels that at some point. Maybe, maybe not.
Rhys 🕊:
I see. It's a dog thing. It all makes sense now. Being man's best friend of course. :P
Rhys 🕊:
Here are some writings from Ray that have helped me so would like to share.
Brother Ray:
Hope this finds you feeling better and well on you’re way to complete wellness, caused by the healing power of the Lord.
I recall reading a reply, by you, to an email. The reply was that you did not attend an institutionalized church.
Would you please explain, what you consider an institutionalized Church? Please feel free to give specific details. I meet with a small group of about 130 Christians. We attend worship services every Sunday, and other days and times, throughout the week. We have Elders and Deacons, as well as, a Preacher. We take-up a collection each week to take care of our expenditures, in the promotion of God’s Word. I do not consider us to be institutionalized.
Love you Ray, May God's blessings be with you!
Frank
Dear Frank: This will have to be short as I am hopelessly behind in answering my emails.
"Institution" means something that is usually highly developed with laws and customs approved of by larger segments of a culture or society. Or any smaller such
institute which follows the teachings and practices of a larger institution.
There are tens of thousands of small and very small congregations of "Christians" around the world. Most all of them, however, follow the pattern and customs of the
larger well established Churches. If your church follows and practices such laws, customs, and teaching, then you are an institutionalize church of men.
In Christendom, there is not one teaching or doctrine that is completely Scriptural. Virtually all churches believing in and teach the following unscriptural doctrines:
Tithing is Biblical for the New Testament Church.
Sunday is the "Lord's Day" of worship.
Man has an immortal soul.
Death is LIFE at a different location.
Judgment takes place instantly at death, hence all dead people go immediately to heaven or hell at death.
The wicked and unbelieving will suffer eternal torment (in a Christian hell).
Jesus will not save the world even though that is what His Father commissioned Him to do (I John 4:14).
Resurrection is a useless doctrine, seeing that people supposedly go to heaven at death without first being resurrected.
Christmas and Easter are Biblically sanctioned holy days.
God is a Trinity of three different persons.
Prayer changes God's mind.
What Christians are "saved" from is an eternal hell of torture.
Salvation means going to heaven.
God gave mankind "free will/free choice/free moral agency."
Anyone can repent and come to Jesus anytime he chooses.
Speaking in tongues is the sign that one is a truly converted Christian.
It is a virtue to become a soldier and kill our nation's enemies.
The King James Bible is inerrant.
The Apostle's Creed is a true outline of Scriptural truth.
Jesus was wrong when He called His followers a LITTLE flock, seeing that Christianity is the LARGEST flock in the world, and the "many called but few chosen"
is now the "many chosen" seeing that there are now two billion Christians in the world.
There are many things that God desires, but will never realize, even though the Scriptures tell us that God will fulfill ALL his pleasure and desires.
According to Genesis chapter one, the heavens and earth are only about 6000 years old.
Noah's flood killed every living thing on earth except those thins in the ark.
Etc., etc., etc.
If your group teaches and believes the above unscriptural heresies, then they are an "Institutionalized Church" of men.
Let me know how your teachings stack up against what I have presented to you.
God be with you,
Ray
And a few other quotes from him.
You don't need a church when you learn that YOU ARE THE CHURCH. God is wherever you are, so don't feel deserted.
Why if you don't agree with virtually anything that is taught, would you ever want to return? You know what the Scriptures say about a dog returning to his own vomit? And "touch not the unclean thing," etc.
I have stated publically many times that "I am a member of the Body of Christ, the Church of the Living God." Perhaps you missed it. But we are to "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE" (Rev. 18:4). Now there's an enigma that most theologians will never figure out in this lifetime. Come out of the Church and still be a member of the Church? HUMMMM
They are an encouragement to me
Rhys
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