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GaryK:
While we're cracking bones of those 'mere humans' who are so easily deceived or being the great deceivers, remember, most if not all of us were there before. And that's why we're here now. But you never know, some may go back. Rhys, you have a thread on that very subject. Never say never. Your will is not in control.
As for what started this whole thread about going head to head and 'debating' the grand deceivers, hopefully we've all learned by now that 'debating'......... if put on a scale........ it would be on a sliding scale of -- idiot>>> to <<< fool foolishness --- and we've all been somewhere on that scale at some point.
And besides, Ray has said it many times:
Ecclesiastes 3:1
New International Version (NIV)
A3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
Cross references:Ecclesiastes 3:1 : ver 11, 17; Ecc 8:6
sunsetdramaking:
--- Quote from: Horseman on March 04, 2013, 05:05:55 PM ---While we're cracking bones of those 'mere humans' who are so easily deceived or being the great deceivers, remember, most if not all of us were there before. And that's why we're here now. But you never know, some may go back. Rhys, you have a thread on that very subject. Never say never. Your will is not in control.
As for what started this whole thread about going head to head and 'debating' the grand deceivers, hopefully we've all learned by now that 'debating'......... if put on a scale........ it would be on a sliding scale of -- idiot>>> to <<< fool foolishness --- and we've all been somewhere on that scale at some point.
And besides, Ray has said it many times:
Ecclesiastes 3:1
New International Version (NIV)
A3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
Cross references:Ecclesiastes 3:1 : ver 11, 17; Ecc 8:6
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Absolutely, this isn't under "our control" of course; not at all!! That's the ENTIRE POINT in fact, but oh' how the Man of Sin (and his "free will") fights bloody tooth and nail for dominion over the throne (of the heart) in a person, and will do anything to not be usurped, not even by the very Words of Christ that contradict that man of sin.
Greatest I am:
--- Quote from: Nickreading1984 on February 28, 2013, 10:11:55 AM ---Ian 155: I'm not offended by things coming across as in my face. I'm talking with Darwin fish, for Zeus' sake. I'd really just like it if one of Ray's personal students could get in touch with me via E-mail.
Kat: The other translation of not finding wisdom anywhere doesn't make wisdom any less elusive after destruction and calamity (which I'm told means Hell). Also, if it means "Ages of the ages" what the heck does that mean?
Everyone: thanks for your help. I'm gonna need loads more.
-Nick
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Not finding wisdom anywhere??
Enlightenment is all around us my friend.
God tells us in Genesis who the wisest of all the animals is and that view is basically identical to most of the older religions from which it came. The serpent is used as that icon.
Think esoteric and Kundalini.
Regards
DL
ICXCNIKA:
I NEED AN EDUCATED TEACHER
Isaiah 8:20 Matthew 7:15 Matthew 23:27 Matthew 24:4 Luke 21:8 Luke 21:8
1 Corinthians 2:13-14 1 Thessalonians 5:21 2 Timothy 3:5
--- Quote from: Horseman on March 04, 2013, 05:05:55 PM ---While we're cracking bones of those 'mere humans' who are so easily deceived or being the great deceivers, remember, most if not all of us were there before.
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All that you wrote is true, thank you Horseman. :) But, I must stress that what I wrote is directed solely against those who fleece their flock and those who blaspheme the Name (the very character) of GOD ALMIGHTY. Not against their respected flocks, for we also came out of this same babylon. My phrase "mere humans" was referring to those so-called "faith leaders" only; and by "mere humans" I am contradicting their self-projected mantles of "wise and mighty". Those men and woman have a sick, and seared conscience: they intentionally exploit the faith, or hardship of others for their own selfish gain. I believe we are to speak boldly against all antichrists———we should follow the example of our Creator and Lord JESUS CHRIST———and drive them all out of the temple! (John 2:15)
--- Quote from: Horseman on March 04, 2013, 05:05:55 PM ---Never say never.
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So true! We don't know if we are meant to fall away....whether for a season or not, but there is an enormous chasm between this "never say never" and those "having the appearance of godliness", but in actuality it's a facade; they make their living by taking the Lord's Name in vain: "Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord." (1Co 11:27)
...Therefore, it's of the utmost importance to discourage anyone from being taught by those bearing that (spiritual) mark of guilt!
Sometimes, I wonder, maybe all those filthy rich, egotistical megalomaniac "faith leaders" are really just atheist pantomiming religion......they must be!......they go far beyond being the "sincere, but sincerely wrong". Those god jockeys can't truly be believers, while at the same time hustling "the least of these" ! (Matthew 25:35-40) Especially, if they have any real confidence in GOD'S WORD: "Not, many teachers, become ye, my brethren, knowing that, a severer sentence, shall ye receive;" (James 3:1)
--- Quote from: Greatest I am on March 05, 2013, 05:55:59 AM ---
Enlightenment is all around us my friend.
God tells us in Genesis who the wisest of all the animals is and that view is basically identical to most of the older religions from which it came. The serpent is used as that icon.
Think esoteric and Kundalini.
Regards
DL
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Esoteric yes. Kundalini, no!
"And be not configuring yourselves unto this age, but be transforming yourselves by the renewing of your mind, to the end ye may be proving what is the thing willed by God—the good and acceptable and perfect." (Romans 12:2)
All eastern "isms" direct a person inward, towards themselves to do "a work": by leading a person away from WHO they should be solely focused on. We are not to attempt a metaphysical "journey to god". We are to "cease our work" (sabbath) and be transformed by CHRIST and accept HIS will. The single-handed, most foundational truth that a follower of JESUS CHRIST can first be enlightened on is: "I can of mine own self do nothing" (John 5:30)
While it's true that many a creation is likened to something (aka: satan being likened to a serpent); it's also true that the serpent represents certain spiritual attributes (i.e., cunning, cleverness, etc). Satan is also very much a real spiritual entity, fulfilling the purpose he was created to fulfill. Nothing more, nothing less.
"nor may ye be called directors, for one is your director -- the Christ." (Matthew 23:10 - Young's Literal Translation)
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