> General Discussions
Will we ever see Our Heavenly Father
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: santgem on April 13, 2013, 02:03:43 AM ---But the question is;
Where is the Father when Jesus is Yahweh?
--- End quote ---
Let Jesus answer the question..."I and Father are one." John 10:30 But people don't believe Jesus or His Scriptures. They think Jesus was confused. They have to explain away His words.
The apostle Phillip asked Jesus to show them the Father. Jesus said that if you saw Jesus then you saw the Father. How is that? Because Jesus and the Father are one.
Jesus "is the image of the invisible God." Col 1:15 The Father is invisible Spirit; Jesus is the visible image of God in bodily form. They are not two persons or two Gods. God is One. Jesus is one aspect of God.
That was what Ray tried to get across in his creed when he stated Jesus was God's Authorized Autobiography. An autobiography is when you write about yourself not another. But Ray's statement went over most people's heads.
microlink:
Will we ever see our Heavenly Father? Good question. When born into the God Family at the first resurrection we will be spirit just as the Father and Jesus are spirit. Revelation tells us that the bride (that is us) has made herself ready and we will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb (Jesus). Recognizing that the book of Revelation is mostly symbolic, it does have in it spiritual reality. The Father may well host the marriage supper of the Lamb. As spirit beings in the Family will we not be able to see and visit with our Heavenly Father. What good father is there that does not want his children to be accessible to them. I know that this may be leaning to a physical analogy, but it is worth some thought. The New Testament has much to say about the Bride of Christ, the marriage supper and always being with Christ in the Kingdom of God.
Joe from Ottawa
Rito1980:
"I and Father are one." John 10:30 it simply means Jesus was in agreement with YAHUA. You need to remember the bible is a middle eastern book. Stop lookin at verses from a western point of view.
Dave in Tenn:
Rito, Jesus IS the God (Yawheh, Jehovah, or any other way you want to transliterate the name) of the Old testament.
theophilus:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 15, 2013, 12:33:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: santgem on April 13, 2013, 02:03:43 AM ---But the question is;
Where is the Father when Jesus is Yahweh?
--- End quote ---
Let Jesus answer the question..."I and Father are one." John 10:30 But people don't believe Jesus or His Scriptures. They think Jesus was confused. They have to explain away His words.
The apostle Phillip asked Jesus to show them the Father. Jesus said that if you saw Jesus then you saw the Father. How is that? Because Jesus and the Father are one.
Jesus "is the image of the invisible God." Col 1:15 The Father is invisible Spirit; Jesus is the visible image of God in bodily form. They are not two persons or two Gods. God is One. Jesus is one aspect of God.
That was what Ray tried to get across in his creed when he stated Jesus was God's Authorized Autobiography. An autobiography is when you write about yourself not another. But Ray's statement went over most people's heads.
--- End quote ---
Hello there! So, because "I [Jesus] and the Father are one", when Jesus died on the cross, God Himself passed away, gave up the ghost, right? Since Jesus and the Father are ONE, what affects Jesus affects the Father as well. So, who resurrected Jesus given the fact that the Father had died? If the Father didn't really die, then death is not really death--except maybe when applied to men only.
I need an aspirin people!!!!
I'm going to bed now. I work nights. I pray that God will help me understand this conundrum. I do believe Jesus is God in the O.T.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version